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Conspiracy theories are at the root of the most pressing political problems of our time, yet their influence cuts just as personal. Suspicion has fractured families, communities, churches, and our very social fabric, as one person’s fact is another’s fake news.

In Reality in Ruins, Dr. Jared Stacy braves the untold history of conspiracism in American evangelicalism and the anxiety at the heart of this radioactive movement that affects us all. In a new age of what he calls “Disreality,” many are left reeling in the ruins of what was once a common world, now splintered by warring ideologies, religious and political extremism, and cults of certainty. Dr. Stacy reports from the inside as someone raised and even ordained in one of the nation’s most conservative denominations. Now, as a historian and post-evangelical theologian, Dr. Stacy traces the currents of pain, panic, and power that have thrust the evangelical church into a theological crisis with consequence for everyone.

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Check out my first episode with Isami for more context to her background: https://youtu.be/qejunG6PxhA

On this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric Skwarczynski sits down again for an in-person interview with Isami (IG: @isamiinspires).

After a quick recap of our last episode, she opens up about building a new life in Utah, drinking dirty soda, meeting Mormon wives who live secret lives, and being asked about her faith constantly. She also discusses her brief time working for CPS in Utah and the darker situations she has had to deal with.

Isami talks candidly about her dad’s recent death, the strange circumstances around it, and the complicated grief of trying to find closure with an abusive parent who never really made things right.

Throughout the conversation, she and Eric wrestle with how to hold empathy while speaking the truth, what healing looks like in real time, and so much more.

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Lindsey Williams returns to the podcast to join me in interviewing Taylor Burge, stepdaughter of Phil Phillips.
She shares what it was like growing up in the home behind Turmoil in the Toybox, the infamous book that warned Christian parents about the supposed demonic dangers of He-Man, Care Bears, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, and other pieces of 80s and 90s childhood.
In this conversation, Taylor reflects on being raised as one of the “poster children” for her father’s ministry, the pressure of growing up inside fear-based Christianity, the complicated legacy of satanic panic, and how she now thinks about parenting, faith, community, accountability, and breaking cycles as an adult.

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Music by Lou Ridley — “Bible Belt” | Used with permission under license.

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In this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Travis Chappell (host of the Travis Makes Money Podcast) joins to break down the latest developments in the Liberty Baptist Church financial scandal involving former senior pastor Scott Gray and deceased associate pastor and financial director Tim Forgy.

We cover the leaked audio recordings from the March 22nd, 2026 church meeting led by attorney David Gibbs III of the National Center for Life and Liberty, where the congregation learned the full extent of the church's financial mismanagement — including secret bank accounts, forged board minutes, and unauthorized loans taken out without board knowledge or approval.

The outside CPA firm hired to investigate called it "one of the worst cases" of church financial fraud they had ever seen.

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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
01:59 How this came to light
06:42 Pastor Scott Gray's Public Statement
09:12 Did Scott Gray Lie About Stepping Away from Ministry?
12:03 Church Business Meeting
12:46 How church finances improved after Scott Gray Left
15:16 Maybe "the worst case" the CPA had ever seen
18:21 Scope of the investigation
21:17 Forged documents to obtain loans
27:05 Did Tim Forgy act without Scott Gray's knowledge?
28:27 Maxed out church credit cards
32:56 Staff were asked not to take paychecks
43:12 Double payments made to Pastor Scott Gray
47:13 Excessive and undocumented spending
51:29 Nearly $400k cost to church
57:33 Luxury purchases
01:04:37 Churches need strong systems to prevent this
01:10:24 Poorly planned building projects
01:14:46 Gibbs says Scott Gray has been "combative"
01:16:19 Executive Summary
01:18:32 Civil/Criminal Charges aren't being pursued
01:22:43 LBC's financial strategy moving forward

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Music by Lou Ridley — “Bible Belt” | Used with permission under license.

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Sources Mentioned in the Article:

https://www.kltv.com/story/1676756/former-christian-school-principal-jailed/

https://www.mrt.com/news/article/Principal-accused-of-molesting-students-sentenced-7621696.php

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-texas-baptist-crucible/id1821356937

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In this episode, I look back at a Baptist abuse scandal that made headlines in the early 00’s.

Russel Hirner was the principal of a school affiliated with Longview Baptist Temple (now named Emmanuel Baptist Church) in Longview, Texas. He is currently serving time in prison for sexual abuse of minors.

His son, Joshua Hirner, sat down with me to talk about the environment at Longview, his dad’s double life, and the facts he slowly pieced together while his dad was behind bars.

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