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Fischer's Phragmipedium :: Phragmipedium fischeri
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 090
On today’s show we learn about the Fischer's Phragmipedium, a critically endangered orchid native to northwest Ecuador, to the Carchi Province, on the Columbian border. Its scientific name is Phragmipedium fischeri and it was first described in 1996.
For more information about Phragmipedium conservation and conservation in Carchi Ecuador in general, please see the Dracula Reserve at https://reservadracula.org/.

(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(26:26) Citations
(28:20) Music
(36:01) Pledge

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Braem, G. J., & Mohr, H. (1996). Phragmipedium fischeri, a new slipper orchid from Ecuador. Leaflets of the Schlechter Institute, 3, 27–31.
Braem, G. J. (2011). A Re-evaluation of the Infrageneric Taxonomy of the Genus Phragmipedium. Richardiana, 12(1), 16-24. – https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/part/273301
Braem, G. J., & Tesón, E. (2016). A revision of the Phragmipedium schlimii complex (Orchidaceae: Cypripedioideae). Richardiana, 16, 293–321. – https://richardiana.jardinbotaniquedeguyane.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Richardiana-vol16-28-Phragmipediumschlimii.pdf
Broaddus, C., & Robayo, J. (2021). Dracula Transect Expedition: Explorers Club flag report. The Explorers Club. – https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d69890f65a29d0001afbce5/t/61a647f3829f5f05eaf1b63a/1638287355005/Dracula+Transect+Expedition+-+Explorers+Club+Flag+Report.pdf
Dodson, C. H. (1966). Studies in orchid pollination: The genus Phragmipedium. American Orchid Society Bulletin, 35(8), 680–687 – https://www.aos.org/explore/phragmipedium
Guo, Y.-Y., Luo, Y.-B., Liu, Z.-J., & Wang, X.-Q. (2012). Evolution and biogeography of the slipper orchids: Eocene vicariance of the conduplicate genera in the Old and New World tropics. PLoS ONE, 7(6), e38788. – https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0038788
Jost, L. (2016, October 2). Ladyslippers 1: Biology. EcoMinga Blog. – https://ecomingafoundation.wordpress.com/2016/10/02/ladyslippers-1-biology/
iNaturalist – near Carchi
Manza, S. (2006, July 13). Phragmipedium fischeri. Slipper Orchid Info Data Sheet. – https://slipperorchids.info/phragdatasheets/fischeri/index.html
Matters, D. (2004, August/September). Phragmipediums and their culture. Australian Orchid Review, 69(4), 4-10. – http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/61848580
McGough, H. N., Roberts, D. L., Brodie, C., & Kowalczyk, J. (2006). CITES and slipper orchids: An introduction to slipper orchids covered by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species. Kew Royal Botanic Gardens. – https://iro.bl.uk/entities/publication/67a9adb0-a256-4643-b05f-b2ef889696b6
Missouri Botanical Garden. (n.d.). Phragmipedium (Group). Plant Finder. – https://plantfinder.mobot.org/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?taxonid=264657
Rankou, H. 2016. Phragmipedium fischeri. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2016: e.T43324499A43328089. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2016-1.RLTS.T43324499A43328089.en
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew. (n.d.). Phragmipedium schlimii f. schlimii. Plants of the World Online. – https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77188197-1
Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phragmipedium
Zotz, G., & Hietz, P. (2001). The physiological ecology of vascular epiphytes: Current knowledge, open questions. Journal of Experimental Botany, 52(364), 2067–2078. https://doi.org/10.1093/jexbot/52.364.2067

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A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Raffles' Banded Langur :: Presbytis femoralis
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 089

On today’s show we learn about the Raffles' Banded Langur, a critically endangered mammal, a primate, native to southeast Asia, to Singapore and southern Malaysia. Its scientific name is Presbytis femoralis and it was first described in 1838.

For more information about Raffles' Banded Langur conservation please see Mandai Nature at https://www.mandainature.org/.

(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(31:03) Citations
(33:20) Music
(41:20) Pledge

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Ang, A., Boonratana, R. & Nijman, V. 2022. Presbytis femoralis. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2022: e.T39801A215090780. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2022-1.RLTS.T39801A215090780.en
Ang, A., D’Rozario, V., Jayasri, S. L., Lees, C. M., Li, T. J., & Luz, S. (2016). Species action plan for the conservation of Raffles’ banded langur (Presbytis femoralis femoralis) in Malaysia and Singapore. IUCN SSC Conservation Breeding Specialist Group. – https://portals.iucn.org/library/node/47506
Ang, A., Jabbar, S., D’Rozario, V., & Lakshminarayanan, J. (2021). Citizen science program for critically endangered primates: A case study from Singapore. Primate Conservation, 35, 179–188. – http://www.primate-sg.org/storage/pdf/PC35_Ang_et_al_Citizen_science.pdf
Ang, A., Roesma, D. I., Nijman, V., Meier, R., Srivathsan, A., & Rizaldi (2020). Faecal DNA to the rescue: Shotgun sequencing of non-invasive samples reveals two subspecies of Southeast Asian primates to be Critically Endangered species. Scientific Reports, 10(1), 9396. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-020-66007-8
Cherian, A. (2023, February). Raffles' banded langur. New England Primate Conservancy. – https://neprimateconservancy.org/raffles-banded-langur/
Ding Li Yong. (2025). [Sound recording from] Xeno-Canto. XC961056. – https://www.xeno-canto.org/961056
Er, J. (n.d.). Introducing our elusive wild neighbours. [Singapore] National Parks Board. Retrieved October 3, 2026. – https://www.nparks.gov.sg/publications-resources/articles/introducing-our-elusive-wild-neighbours
Haris, H., Othman, N., Kaviarasu, M., Najmuddin, M. F., Abdullah-Fauzi, N. A. F., Ramli, F. F., Sariyati, N. H., Ilham-Norhakim, M. L., Md-Zain, B. M., & Abdul-Latiff, M. A. B. (2024). Ethnoprimatology reveals new extended distribution of critically endangered banded langur Presbytis femoralis (Martin, 1838) in Pahang, Malaysia: Insights from indigenous traditional knowledge and molecular analysis. American Journal of Primatology, 86, e23631. – https://doi.org/10.1002/ajp.23631
Haris, N. (2021). DNA metabarcoding and phytochemical analysis of plants consumed by banded langur (Presbytis femoralis) in Johor. [N. Haris'] Master's thesis, Universiti Tun Hussein Onn Malaysia. UTHM Institutional Repository. – https://eprints.uthm.edu.my/6435/
iNaturalist - Singapore
Lai, D. (2026, August 3). Critically endangered Raffles’ banded langur spotted at Bukit Timah Nature Reserve after 39 years. The Straits Times. – https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/critically-endangered-raffles-banded-langur-spotted-at-bukit-timah-nature-reserve-after-39-years
Malaysian Palm Oil Council. (2021, September 1). Will Malaysia be able to weather the decline in palm oil exports to the United States? MPOC Market Insight. – https://www.mpoc.org.my/will-malaysia-be-able-to-weather-the-decline-in-palm-oil-exports-to-the-united-states/
Mittermeier, R. A., Reuter, K. E., Rylands, A. B., Jerusalinsky, L., Schwitzer, C., Strier, K. B., Ratsimbazafy, J., & Humle, T. (Eds.). (2022). Primates in peril: The world’s 25 most endangered primates 2022–2023. IUCN SSC Primate Specialist Group, International Primatological Society, & Re:wild. – https://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1200343/28551465/1665759930773/Top-25-Primates-2022-2023.pdf
Najmuddin, M. F., Haris, H., Norazlimi, N., Md-Zain, B. M., Abd Rahman, M.-R., Shahrool-Anuar, R., Hassan, A. H., & Abdul-Latiff, M. A. B. (2020). Daily activity budget of banded langur (Presbytis femoralis) in Malaysia. Journal of Sustainability Science and Management, 15(5), 84–97. – https://doi.org/10.46754/jssm.2020.07.009
Numata, S., Yamaguchi, K., Shimizu, M., Sakurai, G., Morimoto, A., Alias, N., Noor Azman, N. Z., Hosaka, T., & Satake, A. (2022). Impacts of climate change on reproductive phenology in tropical rainforests of Southeast Asia. Communications Biology, 5(1), Article 311. – https://doi.org/10.1038/s42003-022-03245-8
Najmuddin, M. F., Haris, H., Norazlimi, N., Ruslin, F., Matsuda, I., Md-Zain, B. M., & Abdul-Latiff, M. A. B. (2021). Dietary habits of free-ranging banded langur (Presbytis femoralis) in a secondary-human modified forest in Johor, Malaysia. Zoological Studies, 60, Article 67. – https://doi.org/10.6620/ZS.2021.60-67
Rizaldi, Ilham, K., Prasetio, I., Lee, Z. H., Jabbar, S., & Ang, A. (2019). Preliminary study on the distribution and conservation status of the East Sumatran banded langur Presbytis femoralis percura in Riau Province, Sumatra, Indonesia. Asian Primates Journal, 8(1), 25–36. – http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1200343/28234574/1577091893337/2019Dec23_Article_3.pdf
Tay, L. S., Choo, R., Khoo, M. D. Y., Kong, E., Chan, Y. X., Neo, W. H. Y., Ow, S., Toh, Y. H., Ling, H., Soh, M. C. K., Lee, B. P. Y.-H., Loo, A. H. B., & Er, K. B. H. (2024). A suite of wildlife crossing structures facilitates mammal movement across tropical forest fragments in a city. Ecosphere, 15(12), Article e70114. https://doi.org/10.1002/ecs2.70114
Woolloff, A., Svensson, M. S., Jabbar, S., Ang, A., & Nijman, V. (2023). Population viability analysis of the population of Raffles’ banded langurs Presbytis femoralis in Singapore. Raffles Bulletin of Zoology, 71, 542–552. – https://doi.org/10.26107/RBZ-2023-0041
Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffles%27_banded_langur

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A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong!...

Vallarta Pine :: Pinus vallartensis
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 088

On today’s show we learn about the Vallarta Pine, a critically endangered conifer native to the state of Jalisco, in western Mexico, near Puerto Vallarta a few miles inland from Banderas Bay on the Pacific Ocean. Its scientific name is Pinus vallartensis and it was first described in 2017.
For more information about Vallarta Pine conservation and to donate to support their protection, please see the Vallarta Botanical Gardens at https://www.vbgardens.org/.

(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(20:11) Citations
(22:04) Music
(28:29) Pledge

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Coder, K. D. (2008). Leaf senescence & abscission (Tree Leaf Color Series WSFNR08-33). Warnell School of Forestry and Natural Resources, University of Georgia. – http://hdl.handle.net/10724/36467
Cox, T. (2019, October 3). Conifer trees of Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. American Conifer Society. – https://www2.conifersociety.org/blogpost/2082607/489898/Conifer-Trees-of-Puerto-Vallarta-Mexico
Critical Ecosystem Partnership Fund. (2004). Madrean pine-oak woodlands. In R. A. Mittermeier, P. Robles Gil, M. Hoffmann, J. Pilgrim, T. Brooks, C. G. Mittermeier, J. Lamoreux, & G. A. B. da Fonseca, Hotspots revisited: Earth's biologically wealthiest and most threatened terrestrial ecoregions. Conservation International. – https://www.cepf.net/our-work/biodiversity-hotspots/Madrean-pine-oak-woodlands
de La Rosa, J. A. P., & Gernandt, D. S. (2017). Pinus vallartensis (Pinaceae), a new species from western Jalisco, Mexico. Phytotaxa, 331(2), 233–242. – https://doi.org/10.11646/phytotaxa.331.2.7
Earle, C. J. (2026, January 11). Pinus vallartensis. The Gymnosperm Database. – https://www.conifers.org/pi/Pinus_vallartensis.php
Farjon, Aljos, and Brian T. Styles. 1997. Pinus (Pinaceae). Flora Neotropica, Monograph 75. New York: The New York Botanical Garden. – https://www.jstor.org/stable/4393881
Gossett, D. R. (2021). Leaf abscission. In Research Starters: Anatomy and Physiology. EBSCOhost. – https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/anatomy-and-physiology/leaf-abscission
iNaturalist – south of Puerto Vallarta
Perez de la Rosa, J., Gernandt, D. & Thomas, P. 2024. Pinus vallartensis. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2024: e.T124561040A124561048. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2024-2.RLTS.T124561040A124561048.en
Singh, S. P., Inderjit, Singh, J. S., et al. (2018). Insights on the persistence of pines (Pinus species) in the Late Cretaceous and their increasing dominance in the Anthropocene. Ecology and Evolution, 8, 10345-10359. – https://doi.org/10.1002/ece3.4499
Ulises, R.-S. H., & Lucia, F.-M. A. (2024). Impacts of Climate Change on Forest Resources in Mexico: Regional Projections and Vulnerabilities. Journal of Geography, Environment and Earth Science International, 28(12), 67–93. – https://doi.org/10.9734/jgeesi/2024/v28i12849
Vallarta Botanical Gardens. (n.d.). Habitat and ecosystem conservation. – https://www.vbgardens.org/habitat-ecosystem-conservation/
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_vallartensis

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.

A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Jamaican Flower Bat :: Phyllonycteris aphylla
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 087

On today’s show we learn about the Jamaican Flower Bat, a critically endangered flying mammal native to the Caribbean island nation of Jamaica. Its scientific name is Phyllonycteris aphylla and it was first described in 1898.
For more information about Jamaica Flower Bat conservation and bat conservation in general please see Bat Conservation International at https://www.batcon.org.

(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(27:22) Citations
(29:29) Music
(36:42) Pledge

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Baker, R. J., Groen, J. A., & Owen, R. D. (1984). Field key to Antillean bats (Occasional Papers, No. 94). Museum of Texas Tech University. – https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/server/api/core/bitstreams/d15e93d9-80de-45dc-95b8-3af88073278b/content
Bat Conservation International. (2022, May 20). Globally significant Jamaican cave permanently protected to save critically endangered bats [Press release]. https://www.batcon.org/press/globally-significant-jamaican-cave-permanently-protected-to-save-critically-endangered-bats/
Carstens, B. C. (2001). Phylogeny of the neotropical nectar-feeding bats (Chiroptera: Phyllostomidae) (Publication No. 1403850) Master's thesis, Michigan State University. ProQuest Dissertations & Theses Global. https://www.proquest.com/openview/5e2c8907b5a92b9a86606531d3c6b86b/1
Genoways, Hugh H., Baker, Robert J., Bickham, John W., & Phillips, Carleton J. (2005). Bats of Jamaica. Bats of Jamaica, 48, 1--155. – https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/part/249897
iNaturalist – near Rock Spring Caverns, St. Mary, Jamaica
Koenig, S. & Davalos, L. 2015. Phyllonycteris aphylla. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2015: e.T17173A22133396. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2015-4.RLTS.T17173A22133396.en
McFarlane, D. A. (1986). Cave bats in Jamaica. Oryx, 20(1), 27-30. – https://doi.org/10.1017/S0030605300025874
Miller, G. S., Jr. (1898). Descriptions of five new phyllostome bats. Proceedings of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia, 50, 326–337. – https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/1647828
Oelbaum, P. J., Hall, R. P., Whyte, D. L., Stewart, R. S., Pauel, J., Kouwenberg, S., … Welch, K. C. (2024). Reproductive populations of the Critically Endangered bat Phyllonycteris aphylla at two new locations in Jamaica. Oryx, 58(5), 650–654. – https://doi.org/10.1017/S0030605323001643
National Environment and Planning Agency. (2011). 2012 - 2017 bat management plan for Jamaica. – https://www.cockpitcountry.com/pdfs/NEPA%20Bat%20Mgt%20Plan_2012-2017.pdf
Pallardy, R. (2024, August 27). "We found 20 pairs of wings in an hour.” Culprit of Jamaica's dismembered bats caught on camera. Discover Wildlife. – https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/feral-cats-catching-bats-jamaica
Sears, K. E., Behringer, R. R., Rasweiler, J. J., & Niswander, L. A. (2006). Development of bat flight: Morphologic and molecular evolution of bat wing digits. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 103(17), 6581–6586. – https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.0509716103
Wilson, D., Tikuye, B. G., Tefera, G. W., & Ray, R. L. (2025). Impact of bauxite mining on vegetation health in Jamaica: NDVI and aerosol optical depth analysis using remote sensing. Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 140, 104058. – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pce.2025.104058
Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_flower_bat

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.

A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Golden Camellia :: Camellia impressinervis
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 086

On today’s show we learn about the Golden Camellia, a critically endangered flowering evergreen native to southeast Asia, on the China Vietnam border, to the provinces of Guangxi in China and Cao Bang in Vietnam. Its scientific name is Camellia impressinervis and it was first described in 1979.

For more information about Golden Camellia and Camellia conservation please see the International Camellia Society at https://internationalcamellia.org/.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(20:51) Citations
(23:04) Music
(31:01) Pledge

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Ashton, P., & Zhu, H. (2020). The tropical-subtropical evergreen forest transition in East Asia: An exploration. Plant diversity, 42(4), 255–280. – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pld.2020.04.001
Fern, K. (2026, September 10). Camellia impressinervis. Temperate Plants Database. – http://temperate.theferns.info/plant/Camellia+impressinervis
Geekiyanage, N., Goodale, U. M., Cao, K., & Kitajima, K. (2019). Plant ecology of tropical and subtropical karst ecosystems. Biotropica, 51(5), 626–640. – https://doi.org/10.1111/btp.12696
Gu, W., Xiao, X., Ran, Z., Yan, C., Jiang, D., Zhou, L., An, M., & Li, Z. (2025). Distribution Prediction and Adaptability Analysis of Section Camellia Plants (Camellia Genus) in China Based on the MaxEnt Model. Ecology and evolution, 15(4), e71365. – https://doi.org/10.1002/ece3.71365
iNaturalist – near Nonggang reserve, Guangxi
Min, T., & Bartholomew, B. (2007). Camellia impressinervis. In Z. Y. Wu, P. H. Raven, & D. Y. Hong (Eds.), Flora of China: Vol. 12. Hippocastanaceae through Theaceae (pp. 368–369). Science Press; Missouri Botanical Garden Press. – http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242310009
Phung, D., Son, H., Duc, D., Ninh, V., Thuyet, D., & Do, T. V. (2019). Cutting size and position affect rooting efficiency of Camellia impressinervis: A golden camellia. Plant Cell Biotechnology and Molecular Biology, 20(3–4), 179–187. – https://ikprress.org/index.php/PCBMB/issue/view/685
Thang, N. T., Duc, D. T., Bon, T. N., Minh, N. T., Manh, T. D., Thanh, H. V., Tuan, N. V., Dung, P. T., Quy, T. H., Phuong, N. T. T., Linh, M. T., Hiep, N. H., & Do, T. V. (2025). Growth of three species of golden Camellia grown under natural forest canopy in Northern, Vietnam. International Journal of Research Studies in Agricultural Sciences, 11(1), 47–54. – https://doi.org/10.20431/2454-6224.1101005
Thang, N. T., Linh, M. T., Manh, T. D., Duc, D. T., Huong, N. T. T., Phuong, N. T. T., & Do, T. V. (2020). Effects of storage and pre-sowing treatment on seed germination of Camellia impressinervis. Plant Cell Biotechnology and Molecular Biology, 21(1–2), 77–83. – https://ikprress.org/index.php/PCBMB/article/view/4927
Trung, P. D., Manh, T. D., Thang, N. T., Thuyet, D. V., Duc, D. T., Kien, N. D., & Tam, H. T. (2019). A method to select plus tree for flower purpose in forestry. Asian Journal of Research in Crop Science, 4(1), 1–8. – https://doi.org/10.9734/ajrcs/2019/v4i130063
Tuan, N. V., Trung, P. D., Manh, T. D., Thang, N. T., Thuyet, D. V., Duc, D. T., Linh, M. T., Son, H. T., Ninh, V. T., & Do, T. V. (2019). Possible planting areas for golden camellia - Camellia impressinervis in Vietnam. Asian Journal of Agricultural and Horticultural Research, 3(3), 1–7. – https://doi.org/10.9734/ajahr/2019/v3i330000
Wang, Z.-L., Shen, Y.-G., & Feng, B.-J. (n.d.). The characteristics of tropical and rare golden camellias and their introduction. International Camellia Society. Retrieved September 10, 2026. - https://internationalcamellia.org/en-us/conservation-preservation-of-camellias/tropical-rare-golden-camellias
Wei, L., Cai, X., Yang, Y., Jiang, H., Peng, L., Liu, S., Wei, X., & Chai, S. (2026). Analysis of genetic diversity and population genetic structure of Camellia impressinervis. Guihaia, 46(1), 28–38. – https://gxzw.ijournals.cn/gxzw/article/html/20260103
Wheeler, L. & Rivers, M.C. 2015. Camellia impressinervis. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2015: e.T62053740A62053758. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2015-2.RLTS.T62053740A62053758.en

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.

A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.