Bad at Goodbyes

Bahamian Hutia :: Geocapromys ingrahami
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 073

On today’s show we learn about the Bahamian Hutia, a critically endangered mammal, a rodent, native to the Bahamas archipelago in the Caribbean region, in the Atlantic Ocean. Its scientific name is Geocapromys ingrahami and it was first described in 1891.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(26:25) Citations
(28:32) Music
(33:34) Pledge

For more information about Bahamian Hutia conservation, please see the Bahamas National Trust at https://bnt.bs/

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Allen, J.A. 1891-08-31. Description of a new species of Capromys from the Plana Keys, Bahamas. Bulletin of the American Museum of Natural History 3(23):329-336. – https://hdl.handle.net/2246/839
Campbell, D. G., Lowell, K. S., Lightbourn, M. E. 1991. The effect of introduced Hutias (Geocapromys ingrahami) on the woody vegetation of Little Wax Cay, Bahamas. Conservation Biology 5: 536-541 - https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1523-1739.1991.tb00361.x
Cartwright, F.B., Davis, A., Kennerley, R. & Turvey, S.T. 2024. Geocapromys ingrahami. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2024: e.T9002A224590046. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2024-2.RLTS.T9002A224590046.en
Clough, Garrett C. 1973. “A Most Peaceable Rodent.” Natural History 82 (6): 66–74. – http://hdl.handle.net/2246/6480
Clough, Garrett C. “The Bahaman Hutia: A Rodent Refound.” Oryx 10, no. 2 (1969): 106–8. – https://doi.org/10.1017/S0030605300007936
Clough, Garrett C. 1976. “Current Status of Two Endangered Caribbean Rodents.” Biological Conservation 10, no. 1 (July): 43–47. – https://doi.org/10.1016/0006-3207(76)90023-9
Jordan, Kevin Clark. 1989. "An Ecology of the Bahamian Hutia : Geocapromys Ingrahami". Doctoral Dissertation; University of Florida. – https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/207298
Knowles, Lindy, and Casuarina McKinney-Lambert. 2013. Southeastern Bahamas Coral Reef & Island Survey: Rapid Ecological Assessment Report. Nassau: Bahamas National Trust & BREEF. – https://www.agrra.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SE-Bahamas-Coral-Reef-and-Island-Survey-Final-REA-Report-9-24-13.pdf
Kennerley, Ros. 2024. “Safeguarding the Future of Critically Endangered Bahaman Hutia Within the Bahaman Archipelago Through Evidenced Based Management.” Mohamed bin Zayed Species Conservation Fund. December 23, 2024. - https://www.speciesconservation.org/small-grant/bahamian-hutia/36130
LeFebvre MJ, deFrance SD, Kamenov GD, Keegan WF, Krigbaum J (2019) The zooarchaeology and isotopic ecology of the Bahamian hutia (Geocapromys ingrahami): Evidence for pre-Columbian anthropogenic management. PLoS ONE 14(9): e0220284. – https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0220284
LeFebvre, Michelle, Geoffrey Duchemin, Susan deFrance, William Keegan, and Kristen Walczesky. 2018. “Bahamian Hutia (Geocapromys Ingrahami) in the Lucayan Realm: Pre-Columbian Exploitation and Translocation.” Environmental Archaeology 24, no. 2 (August): 171–87. – https://doi.org/10.1080/14614103.2018.1503809
Oswald, J.A., Allen, J.M., LeFebvre, M.J. et al. Ancient DNA and high-resolution chronometry reveal a long-term human role in the historical diversity and biogeography of the Bahamian hutia. Scientific Reports v 10, 1373 (2020). – https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-020-58224-y
Rebach, Judith A. Osborn, "Comparison of the Gas Exchange and Water Balance of the Nutria, Myocastorcoypus, and the Hutia, Geocapromys Ingrahami" (1971). Open Access Dissertations. Paper 2617. University of Rhode Island. – https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/oa_diss/2617
Turvey, Samuel T., Rosalind J. Kennerley, Jose M. Nuñez-Miño, and Richard P. Young. 2017. “The Last Survivors: Current Status and Conservation of the Non-Volant Land Mammals of the Insular Caribbean.” Journal of Mammalogy 98, no. 4 (August): 918–36. https://doi.org/10.1093/jmammal/gyw154
Wilson, Don E., Thomas E. Lacher Jr., and Russell A. Mittermeier. 2016. “Geocapromys Ingrahami.” In Handbook of the Mammals of the World – Volume 6: Lagomorphs and Rodents I, 552–604. Barcelona: Lynx Edicions. – https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.6624107

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A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Caley's Grevillea :: Grevillea caleyi
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 072

On today’s show we learn about the Caley's Grevillea, a critically endangered flowering shrub native to Australia, specifically to the state of New South Wales, north of Sydney, near the Pacific coast. Its scientific name is Grevillea caleyi and it was first described in 1830.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(24:59) Citations
(27:11) Music
(33:34) Pledge

For more information about Caley's Grevillea conservation, please see the New South Wales Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water at https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/.

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Auld, T.D. & Makinson, R. 2020. Grevillea caleyi. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2020: e.T112648700A113309255. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2020-2.RLTS.T112648700A113309255.en
Auld, Tony D., and J. A. Scott. 2004. "Estimating Population Abundance in Species with Dormant Life-Stages: Fire and the Endangered Plant Grevillea Caleyi R. Br." Ecological Management & Restoration 5 (2): 125–29 - https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1442-8903.2004.00187.x
Auld, Tony D, and Judith Scott. 2013. “Integrating Fire Management into Conservation Actions for the Threatened Shrub ‘Grevillea Caleyi.’” Australasian Plant Conservation: Journal of the Australian Network for Plant Conservation 22 (1): 2--4. – https://doi.org/10.5962/p.373496
Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water. (2026, March 23). Grevillea caleyi — Caley's Grevillea. Species Profile and Threats Database. – http://www.environment.gov.au/cgi-bin/sprat/public/publicspecies.pl?taxon_id=9683
Howes, Jeff, and Dan Clarke. 2021. "Grevillea Caleyi." Australian Plants Society NSW. August 7, 2021. – https://resources.austplants.com.au/plant/grevillea-caleyi/.
Llorens, T., Ayre, D. & Whelan, R. Evidence for ancient genetic subdivision among recently fragmented populations of the endangered shrub Grevillea caleyi (Proteaceae). Heredity 92, 519–526 (2004). – https://doi.org/10.1038/sj.hdy.6800444
Llorens, Tanya. 2003. Genetic Structure and Diversity in the Soil-Stored Seed Bank of the Endangered Grevillea caleyi. Sydney: Australian Flora Foundation. - https://aff.org.au/results/grant-summaries/aff-llorens-g_caleyi/
Morris, E. Charles. 2000. "Germination response of seven east Australian Grevillea species (Proteaceae) to smoke, heat exposure and scarification." Australian Journal of Botany 48 (2): 179–89. – https://doi.org/10.1071/BT98051
NSW Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water (DCCEEW). 2025. "Tricking Herbivore Noses to Aid Plant Conservation." Environment and Heritage. August 1, 2025. – https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/news/tricking-herbivore-noses-aid-plant-conservation-news
NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service. 2022. Conservation Action Plan: Caley's Grevillea (Grevillea caleyi). Parramatta: Department of Planning and Environment. – https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/conservation-action-plan-caleys-grevillea-220101.pdf
Office of Environment and Heritage. 2024. “Caley's Grevillea - Profile.” Threatened Species Profile, NSW BioNet. – https://threatenedspecies.bionet.nsw.gov.au/profile?id=10361
Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust (1999-2011) PlantNET - The Plant Information Network System of The Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust, Sydney, Australia (version 2.0). – http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Grevillea~caleyi
Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevillea_caleyi

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A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Northern River Terrapin :: Batagur baska
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 071
On today’s show we learn about the Northern River Terrapin, a critically endangered reptile native to South Asia, in the Sundarbans, in the Ganges River Delta in India and Bangladesh. Its scientific name is Batagur baska and it was first described in 1830.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(26:50) Citations
(28:55) Music
(35:39) Pledge

For more information about Northern River Terrapin conservation please see the People’s Trust for Endangered Species at https://ptes.org/grants/worldwide-projects/northern-river-terrapins/

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Alam, Md. Shafiul, Nasrin Sultana Bristy, Mohammad Firoj Jaman, A. S. M. Morshed, Md. Shariar Rahman, Ebtesamul Haque Mim, and S. M. Mahbubul Alam. 2021. "Feeding Ecology and Growth Performance of the Critically Endangered Batagur baska in Captivity." Herpetological Conservation and Biology 16 (2): 452–460. – https://www.herpconbio.org/contents_vol16_issue2.html
Balan Raveendran, A., Nath, A., Ahmad, A., Das, A. (2025). Conservation Strategies for Northern River Terrapin Batagur baska: Habitat Assessment and Reintroduction prospects. Global Ecology and Conservation. 62. e03763. – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gecco.2025.e03763
Davenport, John, Tat Meng Wong, and John East. 1992. "Feeding and digestion in the omnivorous estuarine turtle Batagur baska (Gray)." Herpetological Journal 2 (4): 133–139 – https://www.thebhs.org/publications/the-herpetological-journal/volume-2-number-4-october-1992/1298-06-feeding-and-digestion-in-the-omnivorous-estuarine-turtle-batagur-baska-gray
Dedieu, A., Scherzer, N., Paumann T., Morshed A.G.J., Weissenbacher A., Walzer C., and Preininger, D. "Camera Traps Provide First Insights into the Nesting Behavior of the Critically Endangered Northern River Terrapin (Batagur baska)," Chelonian Conservation and Biology 22(1), 46-57, (14 March 2023). – https://doi.org/10.2744/CCB-1543.1
Jorgewich-Cohen, G., Wheatley, M., Gaspar, L., Praschag, P., Lubberink, N., Ming, K., Rodriguez, N. and Ferrara, C. (2024), Prehatch Calls and Coordinated Birth in Turtles. Ecology and Evolution, 14: e70410. – https://doi.org/10.1002/ece3.70410
Kumar, A., Sharma, A., Negi, N. et al. Unveiling the contemporary genetic diversity and population demography of the critically endangered northern river terrapin (Batagur baska) in the sundarbans. Molecular Biology Reports 53, 48 (2026). – https://doi.org/10.1007/s11033-025-11208-5
Mim, Ebtisamul Zannat, Mohammad Firoj Jaman, AGJ Morshed, Md Mahabub Alam, and Nasrin Akter Bristy. 2022. “Breeding Biology of Northern River Terrapin Batagur Baska in Captivity in Bangladesh”. Dhaka University Journal of Biological Sciences 31(1):67-78. – https://doi.org/10.3329/dujbs.v31i1.57917
Nawani, S., Balan Raveendran, A., Bashir, A., Kolipakam, V., Das, A., Mondol, S. (2025). Assessment of critically endangered Northern River Terrapin (Batagur baska) phylogeny through next-generation sequencing-based mitogenome analyses. bioRxiv 2025.02.03.636247. – https://doi.org/10.1101/2025.02.03.636247
People’s Trust for Endangered Species – https://ptes.org/grants/worldwide-projects/northern-river-terrapins/
Praschag, P. & Singh, S. 2019. Batagur baska. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2019: e.T97358453A2788691. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2019-1.RLTS.T97358453A2788691.en
Spitzweg, C., Praschag, P., DiRuzzo, S., Fritz, U. (2018). Conservation genetics of the northern river terrapin (Batagur baska) breeding project using a microsatellite marker system. Salamandra, 54(1), 63–70. – http://www.salamandra-journal.com/index.php/contents/2018-vol-54?category[0]=95
Sundarban Tiger Reserve. (2023). Annual Report 2022–23. Directorate of Forests, Government of West Bengal. – https://sundarbantigerreserve.org/web/pdf/an_report/2022_23_annual_report.pdf
Weissenbacher, A., Preininger, D., Ghosh, R., Morshed, A.G.J. and Praschag, P. (2015), Vienna Zoo & Bangladesh: Northern River Terrapin Conservation. International Zoo Yearbook. 49: 31-41. – https://doi.org/10.1111/izy.12070
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_river_terrapin

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.
A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Canelillo :: Pleodendron costaricense
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 070
On today’s show we learn about the Canelillo, a critically endangered broadleaf evergreen rainforest tree native to the Pacific coast of Costa Rica in Central America. Its scientific name is Pleodendron costaricense and it was first described in 2005.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(21:02) Citations
(22:57) Music
(27:41) Pledge

For more information about Canelillo conservation see Osa Conservation at https://osa-arboretum.org.

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
Bezanson S, Curtis S, Mata-Quiros M, Mata-Quiros MJ, Durst T (2024) Phytochemistry of the Fruit of the Critically Endangered Tree Pleodendron Costaricense (Canellaceae). JSM Environmental Science and Ecology 12(1): 1091. – https://www.jscimedcentral.com/jounal-article-info/JSM-Environmental-Science-and-Ecology/Phytochemistry-of-the-Fruit-of-the-Critically-Endangered-Tree-Pleodendron-Costaricense-(Canellaceae)--11736#
Endress, P. K. (2010). The evolution of floral biology in basal angiosperms. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, 365(1539), 411–421. – https://doi.org/10.1098/rstb.2009.0228
Hammel, Barry E., and Nelson A. Zamora. 2005. "Pleodendron costaricense (Canellaceae), a New Species for Costa Rica." Lankesteriana 5 (3): 211–218. – https://doi.org/10.15517/lank.v5i3.19758
Mata, M., & Calvo Guerrero, M. Preformulación teórica de un producto natural antifúngico a partir de extractos obtenidos de las hojas del árbol Pleodendron costaricense. Revista Ciencia Y Salud, 6(6). – https://doi.org/10.34192/cienciaysalud.v6i6.554
Müller, Sebastian, Karsten Salomo, Jackeline Salazar, Julia Naumann, M. Alejandra Jaramillo, Christoph Neinhuis, Taylor S. Feild, and Stefan Wanke. 2015. "Intercontinental Long-Distance Dispersal of Canellaceae from the New to the Old World Revealed by a Nuclear Single Copy Gene and Chloroplast Loci." Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 84 (March): 205–19. – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ympev.2014.12.010
Osa Arboretum. n.d. "Pleodendron costaricense." – https://osa-arboretum.org/plant/pleodendron-costaricense/
Pillco Huarcaya R, López Morales M, Álvarez-Alcázar L, Whitworth A. The First Ex-Situ Germination and Dispersal Mechanisms of the Rare, Critically Endangered Tree, Pleodendron costaricense. Tropical Conservation Science. 15 (1). 2022.– https://doi.org/10.1177/19400829221104572
Rivers, M.C. 2019. Pleodendron costaricense. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2019: e.T136055038A136055040. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2019-3.RLTS.T136055038A136055040.en
Roque, Roger Moya; Salazar, Manuel Morales; Wiemann, Michael C.; Alvarez, Luis Poveda. 2007. Wood anatomy of Pleodendron costaricense (Canellaceae) from Southern Pacific, Costa Rica. Brenesia. Vol. 68 (2007): p. 25-28. - https://www.fpl.fs.usda.gov/documnts/pdf2007/fpl_2007_roque001.pdf
Smith, Paul. 2021. “The Need for Horticulturist Expertise in Plant Conservation: Challenges and Opportunities”. Sibbaldia: The International Journal of Botanic Garden Horticulture, no. 20 (June): 45-56. – https://doi.org/10.24823/Sibbaldia.2021.316
Zimmer, Elizabeth A., Y Suh, and Kenneth G Karol. 2012. “Phylogenetic Placement of a Recently Described Taxon of the Genus Pleodendron (Canellaceae).” Phytologia 94 (3): 404--412. – https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/part/184468

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.
A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.

Slender-billed Vulture :: Gyps tenuirostris
Bad at Goodbyes :: Episode 069
On today’s show we learn about the Slender-billed Vulture, a critically endangered avian raptor, a bird of prey, native to South and Southeast Asia, specifically Nepal, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Cambodia, and Laos. Its scientific name is Gyps tenuirostris and it was first described in 1844.
(00:05) Intro
(02:05) Species Information
(27:51) Citations
(29:43) Music
(37:03) Pledge

For more information about Slender-billed Vulture conservation please see Saving Asia’s Vultures from Extinction at https://save-vultures.org.

Research for today’s show was compiled from:
BirdLife International. 2021. Gyps tenuirostris. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2021: e.T22729460A204781113. – https://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2021-3.RLTS.T22729460A204781113.en
BirdLife International (2021). Species factsheet: Slender-billed Vulture Gyps tenuirostris. – https://datazone.birdlife.org/species/factsheet/slender-billed-vulture-gyps-tenuirostris 25/02/2026
del Hoyo, J., N. Collar, and J. S. Marks (2020). Slender-billed Vulture (Gyps tenuirostris), version 1.0. In Birds of the World (J. del Hoyo, A. Elliott, J. Sargatal, D. A. Christie, and E. de Juana, Editors). Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY, USA.– https://doi.org/10.2173/bow.slbvul1.01
Hille, Sabine M., Fränzi Korner-Nievergelt, Maarten Bleeker, and Nigel J. Collar. “Foraging Behaviour at Carcasses in an Asian Vulture Assemblage: Towards a Good Restaurant Guide.” Bird Conservation International 26, no. 3 (2016): 263–72. – https://doi.org/10.1017/S0959270915000349
Jackson, A. L., Ruxton, G. D., & Houston, D. C. (2008). The effect of social facilitation on foraging success in vultures: a modelling study. Biology letters, 4(3), 311–313. – https://doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2008.0038
Mundy, P. J., 2022. Measurements and shape of the Slender-billed Vulture Gyps tenuirostris. Indian BIRDS 18 (3): 82–85. – https://indianbirds.in/vol-18-no-3/
The Peregrine Fund. n.d. “Slender-billed Vulture.” Explore Raptors. – https://peregrinefund.org/explore-raptors-species/vultures/slender-billed-vulture
Prakash, Vibhu, Hemant Bajpai, Soumya S. Chakraborty, Manan Singh Mahadev, John W. Mallord, Nikita Prakash, Sachin P. Ranade, Rohan N. Shringarpure, Christopher G. R. Bowden, and Rhys E. Green. “Recent Trends in Populations of Critically Endangered Gyps Vultures in India.” Bird Conservation International 34 (2024): e1. – https://doi.org/10.1017/S0959270923000394
Ranade, Sachin P. 2025. “Time Activity Budget of White-Rumped Vulture and Slender-Billed Vulture During Breeding in Captivity.” bioRxiv. – https://doi.org/10.64898/2025.12.09.693217
Sound Recording by Phil Gregory. 2024. Xeno-Canto. XC899521 – xeno-canto.org/899521
Virani, M., P.C. Benson, M. Gilbert, and S. Thomsett. 2004. A survey of the reproductive activities at some Gyps vulture nests in Kanha, Bandhavgarh and Ranthambhore National Parks, India, in the 2002/2003 breeding season. Pages 263-268 in R.D. Chancellor and B.-U. Meyburg (Eds.) Raptors Worldwide. World Working Group on Birds of Prey and Owls, Berlin and MME/BirdLife Hungary, Budapest. – https://assets.peregrinefund.org/docs/pdf/research-library/2004/2004-Virani-vultures.pdf
Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender-billed_vulture
Wildlife Institute of India (2018). National Studbook of Gyps Vultures (Gyps bengalensis, G. indicus and G. tenuirostris), Wildlife Institute of India, Dehradun and Central Zoo Authority, New Delhi.TR. No2018/38 Pages: 142. – https://cza.nic.in/uploads/documents/studbooks/hindi/Gyps%20Vultures%20(Gyps%20spp).pdf

Please find us on the web at Bad at Goodbyes and on instagram. Please subscribe and rate/review Bad at Goodbyes wherever you listen to podcasts. Please help spread the word about the show and about the species we feature. Please take care of each other, and all of our fellow travelers.
A note on accuracy: I strive for it! These episodes are well-researched and built from scholarly sources, hoping to provide an informed and accurate portrait of these species. That said, I’m a musician! I am not an academic and have limited scientific background. I may get things wrong! If you are using this podcast for scholarship of any kind, please see the cited sources and double-check all information.