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Rumors of a forthcoming iPhone without any lightning or USB ports make us ponder why Apple would consider such a move and what its ramifications would be. Also, Apple basks in Golden Globe nominations and steps into movie-industry controversy and Jason explains why most people don't need a Mac Pro.

Casey prepares the way, Thanksgiving is discussed.

Stephen and David are joined by John Voorhees to talk about Mac Catalyst, which allows for iPad apps to be developed for macOS. They review some early examples and talk about the technology and what it could mean for the Mac and iPad in the future.

App developer Simon Leeb joins us to talk about his automation journey that turned into building an automation app, Pushcut. We also stray into the world of iBeacon and automation.

Andy gets his thoughts out about Google's casting abilities. Then, we talk about Larry and Sergey's hand-off of the company keys to Sundar Pichai and why it's not entirely surprising after all this time. We'll also update you on the status of the Thanksgiving Four before pointing you to a revealing interview with YouTube's Susan Wojcicki. We'll end off the episode on a high note, discussing the Google Play Store's "Best of 2019" list.