Inside The Vatican

• Clarity, Confusion, Unity: Unpacking the conclave’s code words

  Welcome to America magazine’s Conclave Podcast. Our editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope.  In today’s episode, the team discusses: - The controversial presence at the pre-conclave meetings of Cardinal Becciu, convicted of embezzlement, and Cardinal Cipriani, who was sanctioned by the Vatican for alleged sexual abuse - The topics emerging in the cardinals’ secret meetings - How “unity” and “clarity” are becoming buzzwords for reversing Francis’ style of governance This episode features: - Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video - Colleen Dulle, co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast - Gerard O’Connell, Vatican correspondent and co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast - Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast - Zac Davis, director of digital strategy and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast - Sam Sawyer, S.J., America’s editor in chief  Sign up for America’s subscriber-exclusive “Conclave Diary” daily newsletter and get all of our extensive coverage at: ⁠AmericaMagazine.org/Subscribe⁠ Links from the show:  - ⁠What Pope Francis taught us: Church teaching finds clarity and power in acts of mercy⁠ - ⁠Cardinal Becciu will not participate in conclave following dispute over right to vote⁠ - ⁠As Cardinals Prepare to Elect a Pope, One Motto Is ‘Unity.’ That’s Divisive.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• The Conclave is more than a referendum on Pope Francis

  America Magazine’s editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope. As part of the coverage, the team is producing a new podcast episode every day and releasing it on Inside the Vatican and Jesuitical. In today’s episode, the team discusses: - The funeral of Pope Francis - The cardinal’s decision to start the conclave on May 7 - The College of Cardinals by the numbers - How the conclave is (and isn’t) a referendum on Pope Francis’ pontificate Hosted by Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video, and featuring commentary from “Inside the Vatican” co-hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell, Jesuitical hosts Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless, editor in chief Sam Sawyer, SJ, editor at large James Martin, SJ, and senior editor J.D. Long García. Sign up for America’s exclusive “Conclave Diary” daily newsletter and get all of our extensive coverage at: AmericaMagazine.org Links: - ⁠Conclave to elect a new pope will start on May 7⁠ - ⁠The three surprises of Pope Francis’ funeral⁠ - ⁠Mourners from around the world flock to Rome to say goodbye to ‘pope of the people’⁠ - ⁠Father James Martin: Don’t be afraid of the conclave—or the next pope⁠ - ⁠The papal transition: What you need to know⁠ - ⁠Cardinal Becciu will not participate in conclave following dispute over right to vote⁠ - ⁠The prayer Rome needs right now: Come, Holy Spirit.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Deep Dive: The Pope Has Died. What Happens Next?

  Pope Francis—the first Jesuit and Latin American pope—has died. As 1.4 billion Catholics begin mourning the loss of their pastor, and the world grieves one of its most prominent spiritual leaders, the Church remembers the pope who saw himself not only as the bishop of Rome, but as a parish priest to the whole world. Now, a momentous process begins in Rome: the funeral, the mourning rites, and the election of a new pope. In this special deep-dive episode of Inside the Vatican, host Colleen Dulle guides listeners through the rituals, rules, and hidden dynamics that unfold when a pope dies—from the certification of his death and the breaking of the papal ring to the solemn gathering of cardinals from around the world, and the quiet conversations that begin among them as they prepare to discern who will lead the church into its next chapter. These cardinals will soon enter the conclave—the oldest surviving method of leadership selection in the world. Held beneath Michelangelo’s frescoes in the Sistine Chapel, the conclave is a spiritual event wrapped in secrecy and tradition. There, 135 cardinal electors, bound by oath and guided by prayer, will choose the next successor of Peter. You’ll hear from: John Thavis, veteran Vatican journalist and former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service, and author of The Vatican Diaries Anne Thompson, NBC News’ Chief Environmental Affairs Correspondent, who has long reported on the Catholic Church Gerard O’Connell, veteran Vatican correspondent for America magazine, co-host of Inside the Vatican, and author of The Election of Pope Francis: An Inside Story of the Conclave That Changed History Join us as we explore the sacred traditions and profound moments that shape a papal transition—and gain unique insight into the process of choosing the next leader of the Catholic Church. Please support Inside the Vatican by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media. Links for further reading Pope Francis, trailblazing Jesuit with a heart for the poor, dies at 88 How Pope Francis changed the place of women in the church Pope Francis never stopped being a Jesuit Trump, Vance and Biden react to the death of Pope Francis A prayer for our beloved Pope Francis Vatican releases Pope Francis’ final testament What happens after a pope dies? Pope Francis died after stroke and heart attack, Vatican says Pope Francis’ funeral set for April 26, first photos of his body released Before picking a new pope, the cardinals will politick In last words, Pope Francis thanked his nurse ‘for bringing me back to the square’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Remembering Francis: A roundtable with Colleen, Gerry and Ricardo

  “We’ve lost a friend on earth—and gained one in heaven,” says Gerard O’Connell as he mourns Pope Francis. In this special Inside the Vatican roundtable, recorded the day after the pope’s death, hosts Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle join their producer, Ricardo da Silva, S.J., for a heartfelt conversation about the life, legacy and final days of a pope who changed the Catholic Church—and changed them. Gerry, who perhaps knew Francis more as a friend than as pope—having shared a personal bond for more than two decades, and whose children were baptized by him—recalls the last time he saw him alive: Easter Sunday, riding through the crowds in his popemobile. “That’s my last image of him,” he says. Colleen reflects on witnessing the pope’s final Urbi et Orbi blessing from the balcony overlooking St. Peter’s Square and thinking, “He gave his all to the job,” she says. “Really left nothing on the table.” Ricardo remembers the pope’s joy at World Youth Day in Lisbon and the line that has stayed with him: “‘Todos, todos, todos!’ This is the church for all!” Together, they reflect on the global impact of Francis’ papacy: his outreach to migrants and the poor, his advocacy for peace and the planet, and his reforms on synodality and inclusion. Colleen recalls the pope’s final request, recorded in his last testament: It would be “just a simple grave in the ground with a stone over the top that just says Franciscus on it. No extra ornamentation.” Please support this podcast by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media. Further reading Pope Francis, trailblazing Jesuit with a heart for the poor, dies at 88 How Pope Francis changed the place of women in the church Pope Francis never stopped being a Jesuit Trump, Vance and Biden react to the death of Pope Francis A prayer for our beloved Pope Francis Vatican releases Pope Francis’ final testament What happens after a pope dies? Pope Francis died after stroke and heart attack, Vatican says Pope Francis’ funeral set for April 26, first photos of his body released Before picking a new pope, the cardinals will politick In last words, Pope Francis thanked his nurse ‘for bringing me back to the square’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Pope Francis has died at age 88

  Pope Francis died early this morning at 7:35 a.m. Rome time. He was 88. His death follows a 38-day hospital stay for double pneumonia that ended last month. He died at Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse where he lived. A brief service was held there, led by Cardinal Kevin Farrell, the camerlengo, who now oversees preparations for the next conclave. In announcing the pope’s death, Cardinal Farrell said Francis “taught us to live the values of the Gospel with faithfulness, courage, and universal love, especially in favor of the poorest and the marginalized.” The cardinals will meet tomorrow, April 22, to set the date of the funeral. Pope Francis will lie in state in St. Peter’s Basilica, likely beginning Wednesday, April 23. We’ll have much more coverage in the days ahead. For now, you can find Gerry’s obituary and our ongoing reporting here: Pope Francis, trailblazing Jesuit with a heart for the poor, dies at 88 Pope Francis never stopped being a Jesuit How Pope Francis changed the place of women in the church Pope Francis pushed the U.S. church to move beyond the culture wars—with mixed results What happens after a pope dies? The official documents of Pope Francis’ papacy Please support this podcast by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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