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    Ep. 34: The Implementation Gap: What You Seize Is What You Get

    29.04.2026 | 48 Min.
    Jill Thomas speaks with Tristram Hicks about why cash seizure is one of the most powerful tools available to law enforcement and what it takes to build asset recovery systems that deliver at scale. As one of the lead practitioners behind the UK's Proceeds of Crime Act and an international capacity building adviser, Tristram explains what turns legislation into results, why financial DNA changes how investigators approach every crime, and what FATF's new asset recovery guidance means for practitioners worldwide.

    ⏱️ Timestamps
    00:05 – Introductions
    01:41 – POCA: from dozens of cases to 5000+ a year
    11:45 – The cash seizure spark that changed UK practice
    16:12 – Incentivisation and why recycling assets changes minds
    23:10– Financial DNA: every financial transaction leaves a trace
    27:30 – How things used to be vs what we should be working towards
    33:20 – The need for statistics in asset seizure
    37:30 – The importance of cross agency reporting systems
    40:30 – Magic wand: bring cash seizure powers inland

    👤 About Our Guest
    Tristram Hicks is the author of The War on Dirty Money and one of the most experienced asset recovery practitioners working internationally today. He spent ten years at the centre of the UK's Proceeds of Crime Act implementation, leading operational financial investigation teams at Scotland Yard while helping shape national policy. He has since worked across Europe, the Balkans, and beyond, advising governments on how to build asset recovery systems that deliver results in practice.

    🔑 Key Takeaways
    Cash Seizure Is the Catalyst
    Extending powers from the border inland transformed UK practice. Most jurisdictions have the same dormant authority available today.

    Incentivisation Makes Legislation Work
    The UK's Proceeds of Crime Act succeeded because it built an implementation committee and recycled confiscated proceeds back to the agencies doing the work. Once the financial incentive was in place, national volumes grew 14-fold.

    Financial DNA Is Everywhere
    Every financial transaction leaves a trace connecting people to people, places, and money.

    Embed Financial Investigators at the Front Line
    Working alongside criminal investigators from the point of arrest is what converts law into seizures. Parallel structures are far more effective than isolated ones.

    📚 Resources Mentioned
    The War on Dirty Money by Tristram Hicks | Amazon
    Tristram Hicks on Substack
    Tristram Hicks on LinkedIn
    Tristram’s Critique of the FATF Guidance
    FATF Guidance on Asset Recovery
    EU Asset Recovery Directive (2024)
    CARIN network

    📬 Stay Connected
    If you found this episode useful:
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    Follow Asset Reality on LinkedIn for updates, resources, and future episodes
    Share this episode with those working in asset recovery, investigations or financial crime

    ⚠️ Disclaimer
    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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    Ep. 33: Following the Mail: Postal Intelligence in the Age of Crypto Crime

    02.04.2026 | 45 Min.
    Aidan Larkin speaks with Tara Kavanaugh, a federal investigator with the U.S. Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) and liaison to the FBI's dark‑web opioid task force. Tara draws on a career spanning HUMINT work in the Middle East, signals intelligence at the NSA and crypto‑enabled investigations at USPIS to explain how modern crime moves across the mail system, the dark web, and digital‑asset ecosystems. She outlines the realities of mail‑based fraud, fentanyl supply chains, dark‑web vendor activity, and the growing “scamdemic,” while highlighting how postal data and blockchain analytics help identify offenders. They also discuss inter‑agency collaboration, investigative tooling and why asset recovery remains central to disrupting harm.

    ⏱️ Timestamps
    00:00 – Early Career & Intelligence Background
    04:40 – USPIS Crypto Investigations
    06:45 – FBI Liaison Role & Dark‑Web Opioid Task Force
    12:50 – Using Postal Intelligence to Strengthen Federal Cases
    15:30 – Blockchain Tracing Patterns, Playbooks & Criminal Methods
    21:45 – Agency Readiness, SOPs & Evolving Crypto Capabilities
    25:45 – Crypto ATMs, Victim Risks & the Growing “Scamdemic”
    32:40 - The Modern Investigator’s Toolkit & Global Collaboration

    👤 About Our Guest
    Tara Kavanaugh is a federal investigator at the U.S. Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) and liaison to the FBI’s Joint Dark‑Web and Opioid Task Force. Her career has spanned HUMINT operations in conflict zones, counterintelligence work at the NSA, dark‑web investigations targeting fentanyl vendors, and blockchain‑based tracing of narcotics proceeds and scam activity. Tara works across local, state, federal, and international partners like Europol to disrupt digital‑asset–enabled crime.

    🔑 Key Takeaways
    Asset Recovery Is Not Peripheral
    From fentanyl vendors to terrorist financing, taking the money disrupts crime faster than arrests.

    Inter‑Agency Collaboration Works When Data Flows
    USPIS, FBI, Europol, and others share seized server data to proactively identify vendors and cases. USPIS postal metadata, label history, and mail‑stream analytics give investigators visibility that other agencies don’t have.

    Crypto ATMs Are a Major Scam Vector
    Elderly victims are overwhelmingly targeted, and the machines provide deceptive legitimacy.

    Blockchain Tools Have Improved Dramatically
    What once required hours of manual tracing now surfaces automatically across chains.

    📚 Resources Mentioned
    9CRC on Youtube
    Europol's Project A.S.S.E.T
    Alison Jimenez on Seize & Desist
    Rich Lebel on Seize & Deist
    Operation Shamrock
    Asset Reality's FCA Approval

    📬 Stay Connected
    If you found this episode useful, make sure you:
    Subscribe to Seize & Desist on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen
    Follow Asset Reality on LinkedIn for updates, resources, and future episodes
    Share this episode with those working in asset recovery, investigations or financial crime

    ⚠️ Disclaimer
    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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    Ep. 32: Illicit Finance, Asset Recovery & the Reality of Global Crime Networks

    04.02.2026 | 49 Min.
    Aidan Larkin sits down with Sal Melki, Deputy Director at the UK’s National Crime Agency and senior leader at the National Economic Crime Centre, to unpack how illicit finance really works today, from local cash couriers to global money laundering networks.
    Sal shares frontline insight on why money laundering is now easier than ever, how technology and crypto are reshaping criminal networks, and what actually works when disrupting and recovering criminal assets at scale.
    We also dive into Operation Destabilise, public-private data fusion, and why asset recovery has become one of law enforcement's most powerful tools against serious organised crime.

    ⏱️ Timestamps
    00:00 – Introductions and Overview of the NCA and NECC
    04:30 - Evolution of Organized Crime Networks
    09:40 - AI, Synthetic Identities, and Emerging Threats
    17:30 - Public-Private Partnerships & Data Fusion
    28:40 - Crypto as an Asset Class
    36:50 - Operation Destabilize
    39:55 - Money Laundering as a Service
    46:20 - Future Priorities

    👤 About Our Guest
    Sal Melki is a Deputy Director at the UK National Crime Agency and a senior leader at the National Economic Crime Centre, where he leads the response to illicit finance, money laundering, and asset recovery. With a background in the Metropolitan Police and Counter Terrorism Policing, Sal works at the centre of the UK’s public‑private effort to disrupt serious organised crime.

    🔑 Key Takeaways
    Illicit Finance is the System
    Asset recovery is not a side quest. It is central to disrupting organised crime, from drugs and fraud to sanctions evasion.

    Money Laundering Has Scaled
    Professional laundering networks now operate like service providers, using cash, crypto, shell companies, and technology to move value globally.

    Technology Cuts Both Ways
    AI, crypto, and automation are making crime easier, but they are also powerful tools when law enforcement and the private sector work together.

    Data Fusion Beats Silos
    Proactive, shared intelligence across banks, crypto firms, and law enforcement delivers far more impact than reactive reporting alone.

    Disruption Matters
    You do not always need to arrest the kingpin. Taking money, increasing friction, and targeting facilitators change behaviour fast.

    📚 Resources Mentioned
    National Crime Agency (NCA)
    National Economic Crime Centre (NECC)
    Operation Destabilise
    The Record | Inside Operation Destabilise
    INTERPOL Silver Notice
    Basel Institute on Governance | INTERPOL Silver Notice Explained

    📬 Stay Connected
    If you found this episode useful, make sure you:
    Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen
    Follow Asset Reality on LinkedIn for updates, resources, and future episodes
    Share this episode with colleagues working in asset recovery, investigations, or financial crime

    ⚠️ Disclaimer
    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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    BONUS: Aidan Larkin on Times Radio: What happens after a £5.1bn crypto seizure?

    20.12.2025 | 7 Min.
    This episode was originally recorded for Times Radio on 13th November 2025.

    In this special bonus episode, Aidan Larkin joins Hugo Rifkind on Times Radio to discuss what happens after a major seizure and why the landmark £5.1bn crypto seizure could redefine how governments handle digital assets.

    In November 2025, a Chinese national dubbed the “Bit Queen” was sentenced to several years in prison for orchestrating a staggering £5.1 billion cryptocurrency Ponzi scheme. The case made headlines worldwide, not just for its scale, but for the questions it raises about the future of asset recovery in a digital age.

    Aidan and Hugo explore:
    What happens after billions in crypto are seized
    How governments navigate cross-border asset recovery
    The diplomatic and legal challenges of returning funds to victims
    Why this case could set a global precedent for managing digital assets

    Resources
    Crypto Seizures: A Turning Point for Global Asset Recovery
    BBC News: Cryptoqueen who fled China for London mansion jailed over £5bn Bitcoin stash

    Stay Connected
    Subscribe to Seize & Desist for all the latest insights on asset recovery.

    Disclaimer
    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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    Ep. 31: Inside the 'Scamdemic' with Operation Shamrock

    05.12.2025 | 1 Std. 2 Min.
    Aidan Larkin sits down with Erin West and Detective Matthew Hogan of Operation Shamrock to unpack the global 'scamdemic' that’s devastating victims and fuelling organised crime, exploring the human cost behind crypto-enabled fraud. Erin and Matthew share frontline insights on why law enforcement struggles to keep pace, how AI is supercharging scams and what systemic changes are urgently needed.

    We also spotlight Asset Reality’s new strategic alliance with Operation Shamrock, aimed at closing the enforcement gap and accelerating victim restitution worldwide.

    Timestamps
    00:00 – Introduction
    03:30 – The Scamdemic: How pig-butchering scams evolved and scaled globally
    10:00 – AI and the psychology of scams
    15:00 – Human trafficking and scam compounds
    20:00 – Law enforcement challenges
    29:00 – Why crypto recovery is easier than you think
    46:00 – Social media’s role in enabling scams
    59:00 – Community, Collaboration and the Crypto Coalition

    About Our Guests
    Erin West is the founder of Operation Shamrock, a nonprofit dedicated to disrupting the scam industry through education, advocacy and law enforcement support. After 26 years as a prosecutor, Erin now leads global efforts to fight transnational organized crime and protect victims.

    Matthew Hogan is a detective with the Connecticut State Police and co-founder of its cryptocurrency working group. He serves on the Secret Service Financial Crimes Task Force and works tirelessly to recover assets for victims of crypto-enabled fraud.

    Key Takeaways
    The Scamdemic is Industrial: Pig-butchering scams and sextortion are run from compounds housing tens of thousands of trafficked workers, weaponizing AI and psychological manipulation.

    Law Enforcement is Outpaced: Crypto recovery is technically easier than physical asset recovery, but resource gaps, bureaucracy and lack of training stall progress.

    Systemic Change is Needed: From unified reporting systems to breaking down silos, collaboration across law enforcement, tech platforms and financial institutions is critical.

    Our Partnership with Operation Shamrock
    Asset Reality and Operation Shamrock have formed a global strategic alliance to:
    Deliver monthly free crypto seizure training to U.S. and international law enforcement via the Crypto Coalition.
    Develop standardized playbooks for intake, seizure, and investigation workflows.
    Launch a global advocacy initiative making victim restitution a core success metric for crypto enforcement.
    As Aidan Larkin says:
    “This isn’t just about crypto, it’s about systemic change. If we empower local agencies with the right playbook and tools, we can disrupt billion-dollar networks before the funds vanish.”
    Learn more

    Resources
    Operation Shamrock
    Crypto Coalition
    Chainalysis Report: Seizable Crypto Assets in 2025

    Stay Connected
    Subscribe to Seize & Desist for all the latest insights on asset recovery.

    Disclaimer
    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only. They are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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Welcome to Seize & Desist - the first podcast to explore the fascinating and complex world of seized assets. In this show, Asset Reality co-founder and CEO Aidan Larkin will be joined by some of the industry’s most influential and renowned experts to discuss their perspectives on the latest headlines, trends and challenges shaping the future of global asset recovery. They’ll explore how asset recovery impacts individuals and organisations alike and how it's evolving to keep pace with emerging technological advancements like cryptocurrencies, NFTs and other virtual assets. Whether you're new to the world of seized asset recovery or a seasoned practitioner, join us inside the world of asset recovery and uncover the stories shaping its future. Subscribe to be the first to hear new episodes of Seize & Desist. Connect with Asset Reality on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/asset-reality/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/asset_reality Stay up-to-date with the latest industry developments by reading our blog: https://www.assetreality.com/blog Connect with our host Aidan Larkin on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidan-larkin-29810781/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/AidanJLarkin Seize & Desist is for informational purposes only and is not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, and/or investment advice. Listeners must consult their own advisors before making decisions on the topics discussed. Asset Reality has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Asset Reality employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Asset Reality does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Asset Reality.
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