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Christophe Lephilibert, Robert Brehm
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  • Episode 33 - Grid-Forming Charging Hardware: The Interface Unlocking the Digital Grid, with Kwetta
    Send us a textIn this episode, host Christophe speaks with Mike Lazelle, CEO and co-founder of Kwetta - a highly innovative hardware company helping Charge Point Operators (CPOs) deploy high-power EV charging sites without the grid headaches. From avoiding million-euro upgrade costs to reducing site activation timelines from years to months, Kwetta is bringing a radically different approach to the energy hardware space — with grid-supportive functionality built right into the charger. After raising their Series A in November, Kwetta is now expanding into Europe, targeting Benelux, the Nordics, Germany, and the UK. What You’ll Learn Why batteries aren’t always the right answer for grid bottlenecks How Kwetta’s technology enables faster, more cost-effective connections What it takes to deploy heavy-duty charging at scale How CPOs can position themselves to win in the flexibility market Why grid-friendly charging will be a key competitive edge going forward Chapter Highlights 00:00 – Intro and welcome 00:36 – Mike's move from New Zealand to Amsterdam 01:40 – The origin story: co-founding Kwetta with fellow engineers 03:00 – The turning point: solving charging and grid problems in one box 04:40 – What Kwetta does and how it helps CPOs 06:24 – Kwetta in one sentence: get megawatt charging up in months, not years 06:50 – Rising grid costs, long delays, and how Kwetta addresses them 08:13 – Why Kwetta doesn't require a battery to solve DSO problems 09:00 – Integrating with smart energy management systems 10:30 – Case study: saving €1M and 2 years of delay at a constrained site 12:40 – How DSOs are responding to Kwetta’s approach 15:00 – Flexibility markets and future participation 16:40 – The evolving role of the CPO in grid balancing 18:00 – Kwetta’s rollout strategy and European focus 19:30 – What’s next: partnerships, pilots, and scale 20:45 – Advice to CPOs: why trucks change everything 21:50 – What excites Mike about 2026 22:35 – Final thoughts and wrap-up Want to learn more about Virtual Power Plants? 🎓 Join our free Masterclass on Virtual Power Plants for EV charging, hosted by FLEXECHARGE CTO Robert Brehm.  We’ll explore how VPPs work, what they mean for CPOs, and how to prepare your charging infrastructure for flexibility markets. 👉 Sign up here: https://www.flexecharge.comYou can get more information on our website.Give us some stars please🌟 If you enjoyed the episode, please give it a 5-stars note and leave us a review. Get in Touch:Do you have suggestions for future guests or topics? Reach out to us at [email protected]. Subscribe & Stay Updated:🔔 Make sure to subscribe to the Charge Point Podcast to stay updated on the latest trends and developments in the world of EV charging and energy.📩 You can subscribe to our Newsletter, The Charge Point Journal, by clicking here.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 And you can follow us on Linkedin by clicking here and connect with Christophe here. ⚡ Let’s keep the conversation—and the electrons—flowing.
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  • Episode 32 – Charging Trucks at the Speed of Logistics: Inside the Megawatt Transition
    Send us a textEpisode Summary:Truck electrification is shifting into high gear. In this episode, we sit down with Moritz Vornfeld from Kempower to explore what Megawatt Charging Systems (MCS) mean for the future of electric fleets, depot infrastructure, and grid integration.We discuss why MCS is needed, how it will roll out, the challenges it poses, and how different players in the ecosystem—CPOs, OEMs, fleet operators—need to prepare.Chapter Guide:00:00 – Intro and episode overview02:03 – Moritz's background and role at Kempower05:25 – What Kempower does and their market focus07:40 – Why truck charging is such a hot topic11:22 – What’s coming next in e-truck infrastructure14:35 – What is MCS and why does it matter?18:50 – Standardization and first deployments22:50 – The MCS vs. CCS transition path24:22 – Infrastructure and grid limitations26:02 – [Ad break: FLEXECHARGE Masterclass promo]26:40 – Comparing Europe, the US, and China33:03 – What will matter most by 203037:37 – MCS use cases beyond trucks38:50 – Scaling depot charging in the real world43:08 – Software and orchestration needs45:17 – Wrap-up and final insights46:07 – Outro and key takeawaysWho should listen:CPOs planning or operating fleet charging sitesLogistics operators exploring electrificationGrid and energy managers facing high-load deploymentsInfrastructure teams preparing for MCS adoptionResources mentioned:Free Masterclass: The Power of Local Load Management Watch at: flexecharge.com/resources/webinarsYou can get more information on our website.Give us some stars please🌟 If you enjoyed the episode, please give it a 5-stars note and leave us a review. Get in Touch:Do you have suggestions for future guests or topics? Reach out to us at [email protected]. Subscribe & Stay Updated:🔔 Make sure to subscribe to the Charge Point Podcast to stay updated on the latest trends and developments in the world of EV charging and energy.📩 You can subscribe to our Newsletter, The Charge Point Journal, by clicking here.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 And you can follow us on Linkedin by clicking here and connect with Christophe here. ⚡ Let’s keep the conversation—and the electrons—flowing.
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  • Episode 31 - Heavy Fleets, Lean Stacks & Smart Ops: Live from ICNC 2025
    Send us a textIn this episode recorded live at ICNC 2025 in Berlin, we dive into how the EV charging industry is evolving — from infrastructure and operations to software architecture and AI. 🎙️ Guests: Lasse Nettestrøm, COO at Fleetgrid – on electrifying heavy-duty fleets and building charging-as-a-service models Martin Moos, Co-founder of Elevathors – on the shift to modular, API-first software stacks for CPOs Maren Rehnelt, Managing Director at Evailable – on using AI to boost uptime and streamline operations for charging networks 🧠 What you’ll learn: How CPOs are maturing and adapting to complexity Why reliability, automation, and flexibility are key to scaling What makes ICNC such a unique place for real industry collaboration Where the experts align — and where they challenge each other 📍 Recorded at: Intercharge Network Conference (ICNC 2025) 🎓  Want to learn more about Virtual Power Plants? Join our free Masterclass on Virtual Power Plants for EV charging, hosted by FLEXECHARGE CTO Robert Brehm. We’ll explore how VPPs work, what they mean for CPOs, and how to prepare your charging infrastructure for flexibility markets. 👉 Sign up here: https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/webinars You can get more information on our website.Give us some stars please🌟 If you enjoyed the episode, please give it a 5-stars note and leave us a review. Get in Touch:Do you have suggestions for future guests or topics? Reach out to us at [email protected]. Subscribe & Stay Updated:🔔 Make sure to subscribe to the Charge Point Podcast to stay updated on the latest trends and developments in the world of EV charging and energy.📩 You can subscribe to our Newsletter, The Charge Point Journal, by clicking here.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 And you can follow us on Linkedin by clicking here and connect with Christophe here. ⚡ Let’s keep the conversation—and the electrons—flowing.
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  • Episode 30 - Building the First-Ever VPP for Public EV Charging
    Send us a textIn this groundbreaking episode, we dive into the first-ever Virtual Power Plant (VPP) built on public DC fast chargers in the Nordics—a true industry first that redefines how Charge Point Operators (CPOs) can interact with the power grid. We’re joined by two key players behind this pioneering project: 🔹 Ludwig Hägglund, Energy Market Lead at Recharge, one of the largest public CPOs in the Nordics  🔹 Nicola Miori, Product Management Lead at FLEXECHARGE, the company powering the VPP with its intelligent energy management platform Together, they share how they turned high-power public EV charging hubs into flexible, grid-responsive assets—without compromising driver experience or uptime.  🎙️ Topics Covered: What exactly is a VPP for EV charging—and why it matters now The origin of the collaboration between Recharge and FLEXECHARGE How high-power DC chargers can participate in flexibility markets What this means for CPO profitability, grid integration, and site scalability Lessons learned: regulation, grid constraints, and tech architecture Why flexibility is the next competitive advantage in EV charging  💡 Want to learn more about "Aggregate", our VPP solution? 🎓 Join our free Masterclass on Virtual Power Plants for EV charging, hosted by FLEXECHARGE CTO Robert Brehm.  We’ll explore how VPPs work, what they mean for CPOs, and how to prepare your charging infrastructure for flexibility markets. 👉 Sign up here: https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/webinars  👂 Who Should Listen: Charge Point Operators (CPOs) and eMobility leaders Grid operators, flexibility providers, and energy innovators Investors in EV infrastructure and smart energy Anyone working at the intersection of mobility, energy, and technology You can get more information on our website.Give us some stars please🌟 If you enjoyed the episode, please give it a 5-stars note and leave us a review. Get in Touch:Do you have suggestions for future guests or topics? Reach out to us at [email protected]. Subscribe & Stay Updated:🔔 Make sure to subscribe to the Charge Point Podcast to stay updated on the latest trends and developments in the world of EV charging and energy.📩 You can subscribe to our Newsletter, The Charge Point Journal, by clicking here.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 And you can follow us on Linkedin by clicking here and connect with Christophe here. ⚡ Let’s keep the conversation—and the electrons—flowing.
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  • Episode 29 - Built in Copenhagen: The Next Wave of Energytech Founders
    Send us a textWhat does it take to build an energytech startup in Denmark today? In this episode, host Christophe Lephilibert (FLEXECHARGE) sits down with three emerging founders working at the intersection of energy, mobility, and digital innovation — all building from inside Denmark’s academic and innovation ecosystems. You’ll hear from: Terminus Energy — reinventing the flywheel for ultra-fast, geopolitically independent energy storage Lumina — using predictive AI to improve uptime and profitability for Charge Point Operators Gridlinx — pioneering bi-directional charging for electric boats and motorbikes Together, we explore how Copenhagen’s mix of top universities, early-stage incubators, clean energy leadership, and forward-thinking investors is enabling the next generation of energy solutions. Whether you’re a CPO, investor, policymaker, or fellow founder — this episode offers real insights into the people, technologies, and conditions shaping Europe's energy future.  🎧 In This Episode Intro: Why Copenhagen is primed to lead in energytech Stefan & Alex (Terminus Energy): Flywheels, independence & deep tech in Denmark Mikkel (Lumina): Data, AI & fixing CPO pain points Kenan (Gridlinx): Niche markets, V2X, and the power of the pivot Startup lessons: What it really takes to build in this space Outro: How Denmark is becoming a European energytech hub  🔗 Links & Mentions Terminus Energy: terminus-energy.com Alex Cadell Stefan DobrowolskiLumina Charging: lumina-ai.dk Mikkel WeikopGridlinx: gridlinx.dk Kenan HenriksenDTU Skylab: skylab.dtu.dk Masterclass about Local Load Management - sign up here.You can get more information on our website.Give us some stars please🌟 If you enjoyed the episode, please give it a 5-stars note and leave us a review. Get in Touch:Do you have suggestions for future guests or topics? Reach out to us at [email protected]. Subscribe & Stay Updated:🔔 Make sure to subscribe to the Charge Point Podcast to stay updated on the latest trends and developments in the world of EV charging and energy.📩 You can subscribe to our Newsletter, The Charge Point Journal, by clicking here.🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 And you can follow us on Linkedin by clicking here and connect with Christophe here. ⚡ Let’s keep the conversation—and the electrons—flowing.
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The Charge Point Podcast is your gateway to the future of EV charging. In each episode, we dive deep into the world of EV infrastructure, offering insights and perspectives from industry leaders, innovators, and the people at the forefront of deploying charging networks. Join us to explore the exciting developments that are accelerating our world towards sustainable mobility. More information about our Mission, Vision and Values here: https://www.flexecharge.com/company/about-us
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