The Master Investor Podcast with Wilfred Frost

Wall Street veteran, SkyBridge Capital founder, broadcaster, author and former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, aka “the Mooch” sits down with Wilf for a candid conversation about the painful market lessons that shaped his 38-year career, his bold transition into the digital frontier, and the importance of focusing on the long term.

From the $14m he lost out on listening to Buffett over Bezos on Amazon, to how Trump took him to pieces on Brexit, and why he had to evolve from a crypto sceptic into a major institutional player, this is a grand lesson in learning from your mistakes, and coming out stronger for it. 

Anthony has advice for younger investors – pay yourselves first,  put that into the markets each month, and don’t get distracted by short term fluctuations. He acknowledges that early in his career he was too impetuous, and how these learnings have influenced his approach to SpaceX, which he owns and is not selling. His view: don’t bet against Elon Musk .

He also explains his position on blockchain technology and Bitcoin itself, and why, despite dismissing it initially, he now believes 90% of investors who actually "do the homework" will choose to own it. 

The conversation then turns to career advice for young entrepreneurs and risk-takers, including the need for developing radical self-awareness, expecting to get your "ass kicked," and why you must never play the victim when things go colossally wrong. 

 

Anthony’s new book All the Wrong Moves can be pre-ordered here: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/476667/all-the-wrong-moves-by-scaramucci-anthony/9781847929235

Recorded Tuesday 23rd June 2026

 

0:00 Intro

3:35 Servant Leadership

6:30 Focus on very long term

12:37 Fear deflation more than inflation

15:57 SpaceX – long term holder

20:28 The case for blockchain & $BTC

28:12 $BTC still under-owned

31:46 Inflation vs innovation

37:31 Wall St vs Washington

40:31 Lessons from President Trump

45:26 UK too hard on itself

47:59 Take risk, expect failure

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

Wilf is joined by Ned Naylor-Leyland, newly crowned Investment Week Precious Metals Fund Manager of the Year and manager of the nearly $3 billion Jupiter Gold & Silver Fund. Known for his characteristically contrarian, deeply analytical perspective, Ned breaks down why the true narrative surrounding gold and silver is heavily misunderstood by the investing public. 

Instead of viewing gold and silver through the lens of traditional commodities, Ned explains why they are fundamentally foreign exchange instruments and why gold is the true risk-free asset of the global financial system. 

“This is about being short the behaviour of your government.” Ned makes the case for physical gold as the ultimate safeguard against the long-term erosion of purchasing power caused by the inevitable debasement of paper currencies. But he disagrees with many fellow gold bulls when explaining the surge in price in 2025, and thinks that momentum and macro trend-following from leveraged investors, as well as changing real interest rate expectations, fueled the recent explosive rally, rather than central bank buying or a broader acceptance of the monetary debasement argument by most investors.

He explains why silver operates as a "dual-nature" asset – acting as money while simultaneously being in critically short supply for the industries of the future from AI to  green-tech to military hardware. “Silver is like gold in that you are short politicians, but you're also long the future.” But Ned has exposure to just gold and silver, and explains why other precious or industrial metals have no place in his fund. 

While he has personally owned Bitcoin himself historically, he doesn’t own it anymore as he likes to be a first mover and contrarian and sees no place for $BTC in light of that.

He believes gold and silver producers are cheaper than they’ve ever been, with free cash flow margins that are double or triple that of the tech sector, while trading on a fraction of the multiple. The reason being the lack of long-only institutional capital in the space, which he thinks could flood in if tech stocks peak.

Ned and Wilf also discuss a wildcard factor – ‘Where Is the Gold?’ – a fascinating deep dive into fractional reserve bullion banking, central bank balance sheet expansions, and the systemic risks surrounding where physical gold actually resides.

 

0:00 Intro 

3:05 Long term case for gold 

6:14 Long term case for silver 

7:06 Why no other metals? 

9:54 What drove 2025 surge in gold & silver 

13:06 Did Gold peak in January? 

15:20 Is debasement priced in? 

17:15 Central banks are NOT independent 

22:00 Gold not risk-on or risk-off – its risk-free 

23:15 Gold vs Bitcoin 

27:14 Physical commodity + producers + development assets 

29:52 Miners cheaper than ever 

33:10 Portfolio construction 

34:56 Gold & Silver not normal commodities 

37:25 Where Is The Gold? 

42:26 Physical gold vs his fund? 

43:40 Revaluation of US gold reserves? 

50:13 Why buy gold & silver NOW? 

51:47 Could governments behave? 

54:37 Conclusion 

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

Powerhouse of business journalism and co-anchor of CNBC’s Squawk Box, Becky Quick, joins Wilf straight from live morning TV to break down a massive, fast-moving moment in the markets and share rare, deeply personal insights into both her career and family life.

Over 20+ years Becky, who is Wilf’s former colleague and great friend, has become well known for her access to, and interviews with, legendary investor Warren Buffett. She shares what she has learned from her two-decade relationship interviewing and building trust with him, including the true source of his investing genius - unwavering patience, an extraordinary mathematical mind, and the complete absence of FOMO (fear of missing out). 

The discussion begins on current market movements, including Becky’s latest headline takes on the factors affecting markets, and why she is optimistic that the newly announced 60-day US-Iran peace framework can hold. She cautions that President Trump is less concerned about the upcoming mid-term elections in November than markets think and will prioritise his legacy in the Middle East if he has to end the ceasefire.

Wilf and Becky also unpack the frenetic retail demand behind the historic SpaceX IPO, drawing parallels to the dot-com boom of the late 1990s while examining the timeless advice of Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger: never bet against Elon Musk. 

Finally, the conversation turns to a deeply moving discussion about CNBC Cures, a powerful initiative Becky launched following her daughter Kaylee’s diagnosis with Syngap1, an incredibly rare genetic disease. Becky opens up about the isolation of navigating a rare diagnosis and how she is using CNBC's global platform to connect families, mobilize investors, and bridge the gap between laboratory science and life-altering treatments. 

You can watch Becky’s documentary here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SD8-YcQdb4&feature=youtu.be

And read more about the CBNC Cures initiative here - https://www.cnbc.com/cures/

 

Recorded Monday 15th June 2026

 

0:00 Intro

3:00 US-Iran peace deal

5:57 Iran over Mid-Terms for Trump

8:09 Buffett - don’t bet against Elon Musk

9:45 Déjà vu of late 1990s?

12:40 CNBC’s role – financial education

16:50 21 Years of Squawk Box

20:07 Purity of the markets

22:16 Lessons from Warren Buffett

26:05 Buffett’s secret – patience

30:07 CNBC Cures

40:20 Loneliness of rare disease

44:48 Investing, career and life advice

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

In this special episode of The Master Investor Podcast we explore the upcoming IPO of SpaceX - the largest IPO of all time, set to begin trading on Friday 12 June, raising $75bn in fresh capital, valuing the firm at close to $1.8trn.

 

Wilf is joined by CNBC’s Morgan Brennan to set up the details with a breakdown of SpaceX’s business model, all of the key numbers, and how we got to this point. 

 

Wedbush Securities’ Senior Research Analyst Dan Ives then gives the bullish take on the IPO.

 

Followed by Nicolas Owens from Morningstar - a rare Bear on Wall St on this deal - who thinks the company is worth half the mooted listing price. Read Nicolas' Note here - https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/spacex-what-investors-need-know-about-its-enormous-upcoming-ipo

 

Rounding things off, Wilf discusses the likely impact of the IPO on the broader markets with founder of The Bear Traps Report - Larry McDonald.

 

If you are debating buying shares in the SpaceX IPO then this is a critical listen for you.

 

Recorded 7th and 8th June 2026.

 

0:00 Intro

2:14 Morgan Brennan sets it up

17:00 Dan Ives - BULL case

28:43 Nicolas Owens - BEAR case

42:39 Larry McDonald - impact on wider market

 

 

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.

What happens the day after ChatGPT launches? If you’re Dominic Rizzo, you take over the helm of the $8.7bn T. Rowe Price Global Technology Fund and embark on an incredible run, delivering an outstanding 43.6% per annum return. 

In this episode of The Master Investor Podcast, host Wilfred Frost sits down with Dom Rizzo to dissect the massive shifts reshaping the technology sector. Dom explains why he believes that the key question the market is grappling with is how much more AI CaPex spend there is to come, and why he believes we are only half way through a massive AI CapEx cycle, with Google’s recent $85bn capital raise is a proof point of that.

Central to all of Dom’s thinking is that “compute equals revenue” and how that empowers the best AI companies (Anthropic and OpenAI) to deliver not just the highest raw intelligence but increasingly task completion too. The main reason we have seen such a strong market year to date is that the revenue is now following. “People didn't see Agentic taking off, but Claude Code and OpenAI Codex have opened everyone's eyes the huge enterprise opportunity here.”

Dominic thinks Software companies got fat and happy and explains why AI is the worst possible threat for them as a horizontal technology that can attack every software use case. He predicts that ChatGPT and Claude will end up sitting on top of basically the entire enterprise software stack and almost everything else will end up being a “dumb data pipe” feeding into those two. 

He also explains why Nvidia remains King, why AMD and Intel are incredibly well placed, and why he laughs when people say Memory is commoditised with only three real players left globally in Micron, Samsung and Hynix. 

Wilf and Dom also debate the upcoming mega IPOs of SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI and how the latter two’s roughly 10/1 Price/Sales multiple compares to the 100/1 multiple for SpaceX.

He ends by sharing his key investment advice for listeners: find a framework that matches your personality; work relentlessly hard; and get lucky.

Recorded 4th June 2026

0:00 Intro

3:00 Great performance & good timing 

6:29 AI - we haven’t overspent yet

09:28 Impact of Agentic computing 

11:47 Four part framework for picking stocks 

14:34 Software companies got fat & happy

17:01 Can $MSFT $CRM adapt? No.

22:05 Why $NVDA is still the King - $AMD $INTC too.

27:59 $ARM figured out low power CPU processing

30:56 Memory is the hardest “commodity” in world to make

35:00 Technical market factors – ETFs & IPOs

36:30 $GOOGL capital raise signals CapEx boom continues

38:40 Compute equals revenue

41:43 Why leading intelligence beats cheap

45:13 Is $AAPL vulnerable?

47:22 Upcoming mega IPOs

52:11 Pressure on broader markets from insanely large IPOs

54:12 Valuations overall

56:00 Concluding investment advice

 

You can watch the full video on The Master Investor Podcast YouTube channel

 

And follow @WilfredFrost on X and Linked In

 

Sponsored by BNY Investments, Interactive Brokers - ibkr.com/masterinvestor, The World Gold Council and London Stock Exchange Group (LSEG). 

 

The Master Investor Podcast is produced by Paradine Productions, Master Investor Ltd in association with Bird Lime Media.

 

This podcast is for information purposes only. It does not constitute an invitation or inducement to engage in any investment activity. It is not a financial promotion as defined under section 21 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (FSMA). The views expressed by the presenter of this podcast are those of the presenter and are provided in the course of journalism. This podcast benefits from the exemption under Article 20 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Financial Promotion) Order 2005 (FPO), It does not require approval by a person authorised under the FSMA. Generic information, not identifying any specific investment, fund, provider or service, about a class of investments such as shares, bonds, derivatives and cryptoassets, might be provided and/or discussed during this podcast. Such discussion falls within the generic promotions exemption (Article 17 of the FPO). Such discussion is not a financial promotion requiring approval by an authorised person under section 21 of the FSMA. Investing involves risk. You should consult a suitably qualified adviser who can assess your individual circumstances before making any investment decision.