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Andrew Bisharat & Chris Kalous
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    The RunOut #165: Chasing the big projects with Ethan Salvo

    29.03.2026
    Ethan Salvo is a Canadian climber based in Squamish, who’s best known as the first Canadian to climb V16. That same week, he also climbed Dreamcatcher, Chris Sharma’s 5.14d. And this past he winter, he climbed Lucid Dreaming, the V15 in Bishop.

    But first, your lukewarm podcast hosts discuss a hot take: Was hang dogging a mistake?

    Our final bit is Jess Steven with a cover of “Black Flies”

    Show Notes

    Follow Ethan Salvo: https://www.instagram.com/ethansalvo

    Ethan Salvo on Substack: https://ethansalvo.substack.com

    https://blackdiamondequipment.com/blogs/stories/event-horizon

    Follow Jessica Steven: https://www.instagram.com/peace.and.choss

    Jessica Steven: https://jessicasteven.weebly.com/

    This episode is sponsored by Patagonia. Check out their new Free Wall Kit: https://www.patagonia.com/free-wall-kit/

    Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

    Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]
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    The RunOut #164: Strong and Soft with Margo Hayes

    17.03.2026 | 1 Std. 28 Min.
    Margo Hayes is a professional climber, model, musician, and artist — and she’s best known as the first woman to climb 5.15a, a grade she reached not just once, but three times: La Rambla, Biographie, and Papichulo. In recent years, a battle with Lyme disease has made climbing at her limit difficult, and she’s channeled her energy into art, music, and writing. Her new book, The Margo Method, outlines her approach to climbing and health.

    But first, we pore over the details of a very interesting, precedent-setting case involving a manslaughter conviction after a winter mountaineering ascent turns tragic. 

    Our final bit is a San Diego rock band called Half Hour Late, with their song Ain’t Nothing New.

    Show Notes

    Follow Margo Hayes: https://www.instagram.com/margojain/

    “The Margo Method: Strong and Soft”: https://margohayes.com/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft

    Margo’s music: “Notes To You”: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/margojain/notes-to-you

    Austrian Man Found Guilty in Girlfriend’s Death on Mountain Hike: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/19/world/europe/austrian-man-girlfriend-death-mountain-hike-guilty.html

    Follow Half Hour Late: https://www.instagram.com/halfhourlate/

    https://halfhourlate.com

    https://open.spotify.com/track/3XC0lgx3HJO2zsNoPJ7C2l?si=7a3ef6a566904b5d

    The new Free Wall Kit from Patagonia

    This episode is sponsored by our friends at Patagonia. The new Free Wall Kit is a six piece kit designed to help you perform, rest, and recover on multi-pitch climbs. Check out the full kit here: https://www.patagonia.com/free-wall-kit/?utm_source=runout&utm_medium=endemic&utm_campaign=S26_freewallkit
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    The RunOut #163: Connor Herson continues to crush everything

    18.02.2026 | 1 Std. 14 Min.
    Connor Herson is back. He needs no introduction, but he’s easily one of, if not the best, trad climber in the world at the moment. We talk about his 2025 climbing season in Yosemite, when he ticked the free Nose in a day, got a first free ascent of Triple Direct, and climbed many other major notable routes all while going to school.

    But first, what’s next for Alex Honnold? We have some ideas.

    Today’s final bit is from photographer and musician Cliff Ritchey, with the song “Patagonia.” Cliff teamed up with writer Kelsey Timmerman on a book called “Regenerating Earth,” by Patagonia Books, that documents regenerative farming practices around the world. During their travels, they visited Patagonia, and Cliff fell in love with the place, the people, and the culture. The result is this song, titled “Patagonia.”

    Show Notes

    Follow Connor Herson on IG: https://www.instagram.com/connor.herson

    Did Connor Herson Just Have the Best 3 Days in Yosemite Climbing History? – via Climbing.com: https://www.climbing.com/news/connor-herson-nose-in-a-day-and-triple-direct/

    Connor’s latest news: https://www.instagram.com/p/DUqlp18j6vL/?img_index=1

    Follow Cliff Ritchey on IG: https://www.instagram.com/cliffritcheyart/

    Cliff Ritchey photography / music: https://cliffritchey.com

    “Regenerating Earth”: https://www.patagonia.com/product/regenerating-earth-farmers-working-with-nature-to-feed-our-future/BK935.html

    Listen to “Patagonia” on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/7FI7MHOVpU75neTEUC3JIn?si=df8c08fae8c6469a

    Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast
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    The RunOut #162: Mary Eden on her ascent of Century Crack

    30.01.2026
    Mary Eden is known on Instagram as Trad Princess but in real life, she’s one of the sport’s best offwidth crack climbers. Recently she acheived the first female ascent of Century Crack, perhaps the world’s longest and hardest wide roof crack. 

    But first, we talk about what everyone’s talking about. Alex Honnold and Taipei 101. To listen to the full intro bit, however, you’ll need to head over to Patreon.com/runoutpodcast to become a supporter of the show. With just a few more subscribers, we’ll make as much money as Honnold did free soloing Taipei.

    Today’s final bit comes from the heavy metal band Bygone, with Canmore-based climber Noah Stachulski on guitar. When Noah’s not contemplating dry-tooling ethics, he’s debating his music bros on how to classify different genres of metal. Little surprise these the two worlds go together so well.

    Show Notes

    Mary Eden Becomes First Woman to Send ‘Century Crack’ (5.14b) https://www.climbing.com/news/mary-eden-trad-princess-first-female-ascent-century-crack/

    Follow Mary Catherine Eden on Instagram https://instagram.com/tradprincess

    Alex Honnold Completes Historic Live Climb of Taipei 101 https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/how-to-watch-alex-honnold-skyscraper-climb-live-netflix

    Bygone on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7ii5T8TaNV9XpG2mOkwslf?si=yqRUoJa3QzG11wC4oxoKKg

    Follow Noah Stachulski on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthemountainsofradness/

    Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

    Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]
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    The RunOut #161: The man who wants to reinvent comp climbing, Charlie Boscoe

    12.01.2026 | 1 Std. 14 Min.
    Just when you though you understood what a zone hold was … Hasn’t the comp climbing format already been “solved?” Some think there is room for improvement, including Charlie Boscoe, an alpinist turned World Cup commentator. He is the co-founder of the Professional Climbing League, a new comp series launching in London on February 28.

    But first, Chris sings praise of a crag where people know how to operate, and the wheat is separated from the chaff. Unfortunately, it turns out the chaff is Andrew.

    For our final bit, friend of the show Christopher Parker returns with the namesake track off his new album, Withered Roses, dropping January 30th. 

    Show notes

    Professional Climbing League: https://www.proclimbing.com

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProClimbingLeague

    Follow the PCL: https://www.instagram.com/proclimbingleague/

    Follow Charlie Boscoe: https://www.instagram.com/charlieboscoe1/

    Western Sloper: https://www.wolverinepublishing.com/shop-all-guidebooks/p/western-sloper-4th-edition

    Christopher Parker Music: https://christopherparkermusic.com

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6qZrlQIIBrZGDvx69AXmus?si=try9WEw7T86bNvCw770smQ

    Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/christopher-parker/9258292

    Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

    Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]

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Chris Kalous (The Enormocast) and Andrew Bisharat (Evening Sends) bring decades of climbing experience to the mic, talking with the most interesting voices in the sport. From bouldering to big walls, comps to alpinism—no discipline is off-limits and no dogma goes unchallenged. You might not always agree, but you’ll probably laugh about it later.
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