No more 4-year cycles? Bitcoin’s future with Stephan Livera
If Bitcoin’s famous 4-year cycle is breaking down, what does that mean for investors, and does it weaken the case for Bitcoin’s future?In this episode of Trezor Talks, popular Bitcoin podcaster and Austro-libertarian thinker Stephan Livera joins Sean to explore Bitcoin’s role in a late-stage fiat world. They discuss:• How hyperbitcoinization could actually happen• The risks of treasury companies holding Bitcoin• Why Bitcoin is the greatest opportunity for young people• What it really means to live in late-stage fiat• Why gold is not the money of the future• How to survive bear markets without getting rekt• Why self-custody will always be #1And more! “For most people, the safe thing to do is stay humble and stack sats.” — Stephan LiveraThis podcast was filmed during BTC Prague.Timestamps:(0:00) – Introduction: What is an Austro-libertarian?(5:05) – Stephan’s mission: spreading Bitcoin awareness(10:36) – Are Bitcoin’s 4-year cycles ending?(19:40) – The risks of Bitcoin treasury companies(28:27) – Living in late-stage fiat(30:15) – You need to ride the cycles 🎢(32:00) – Purity tests in Bitcoin(36:15) – NGU technology & onboarding newcoiners(40:00) – Why people keep using exchanges(41:48) – How to stop friends losing coins(46:40) – Wen hyperbitcoinization?!(51:25) – Why you’re still early(53:10) – Sean got his bank frozen(54:55) – Will Google & Apple bow to Bitcoin? (YES!)(56:18) – Prague has become a Bitcoin hub(57:26) – Zoom out: price vs. big picture(59:30) – Sean’s favorite meme on surviving the bear market(1:01:50) – Bitcoin vs. gold & property(1:08:10) – Closing thoughts & the awkward handshakeSecure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
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Trezor & Ledger Finally Talk Face to Face
What happens when the Chief Technology Officers of Trezor and Ledger meet in the same studio?In this special Trezor Talks episode, we leave behind social media drama for industry insights. Tomáš Sušánka (Trezor) and Charles Guillemet (Ledger) join Danny Sanders, Trezor's CCO, for a rare, behind-the-scenes look at the future of crypto security and self-custody.You’ll learn:• Why devices without screens give a false sense of security• How both companies are preparing for quantum computing• The Ledger feature that saved $18 million for users in one month• Where Trezor and Ledger collaborate to push the industry forward • What a day in the life of a CTO looks like• The biggest crypto security challenges in 2025Two hardware wallet titans discuss one shared mission: keeping your keys safe and supporting self-custody.Timestamps:(0:00) – Introduction(3:04) – Charles’s journey into crypto security(7:46) – Tomáš’s background and experience(11:34) – Trading compliments (becoming frens)(14:31) – Education & the self-custody mission(19:12) – Balancing security, privacy, and usability(26:30) – Industry security challenges today(29:31) – Ledger's security philosophy(36:25) – Trezor’s open-source approach(37:47) – Why device screens matter for safety(41:04) – Clear signing initiative and collaboration(47:11) – Smart contracts and user freedom(53:50) – A day in the life of a CTO(59:35) – Future tech & industry trends (quantum computing)(1:09:36) – Challenges for Bitcoin & post-quantum cryptography(1:12:17) – Bitcoin, stablecoins & traditional finance(1:18:22) – Conclusion and traditional awkward handshake (outro)Secure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
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Ditch Crypto Exchanges and Buy Bitcoin Privately — With Vexl’s CEO
Can you really buy bitcoin anonymously in 2025? In this episode of Trezor Talks, Sean sits down with Lea Petrášová, CEO of peer-to-peer Bitcoin app Vexl, to explore how people are buying everything from cars to cookies, without KYC, through Vexl’s open-source platform.Lea breaks down why privacy is the future of Bitcoin, how centralized exchanges are failing us by leaking your data, and what it takes to build strong, private Bitcoin communities.You’ll learn:• Why convenience with exchanges is an illusion• How Vexl works and why it’s different• Where the fastest-growing Bitcoin communities are• Why open-source tools are essential for financial freedom• And yes… what trading bitcoin for a horse looks like “It’s like Tinder… with privacy. On steroids.” — Lea Petrášová on VexlTimestamps:(00:00) - Introduction (01:30) - Why buy bitcoin anonymously?(03:22) - How Vexl works and its most important feature(05:47) - Connecting with users privately on Vexl(09:47) - Sean’s experience using Vexl(12:38) - Concerns with centralized exchanges(16:11) - The importance of privacy (19:00) - Why Vexl is free and open source(24:07) - Who is Vexl for?(28:15) - Using bitcoin for payments(31:33) - Community support and zooming out(34:53) - The fastest-growing Bitcoin communities (36:40) - Unique Vexl trades (cookies, horses & more)(42:45) - The future of Vexl(45:53) – The traditional awkward handshake (outro)Secure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
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Designing the Devices That Protect Your Crypto: A Chat With Trezor’s Head of Hardware
In this episode of Trezor Talks, Sean sits down with Adam Budínský, Trezor’s Head of Product (Hardware), to reveal how the world’s most iconic crypto hardware wallets are made.From initial sketches to sourcing components, Adam reveals the full lifecycle of devices like the Trezor Safe 3.In this episode, you’ll discover:• How the Trezor devices are developed from idea to launch• Why great design makes security feel effortless• How to build hardware when supply chains break• What’s coming next for Trezor devicesWatch to learn how Trezor builds hardware wallets that protect crypto for more than 2 million users worldwide.Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction to Adam’s role at Trezor(03:28) Joining Trezor and first impressions (04:47) Building the Trezor Safe 3(08:06) Going from an idea to building a product(12:20) The complete hardware building process(15:20) How Trezor handles supplier disruptions(17:55) The subtle things users don’t notice about Trezor’s design(19:50) How much flexibility do hardware engineers have when building?(23:05) Where the shape and feel of Trezor came from (27:35) Hidden features(30:49) The process behind a successful hardware launch(34:48) What the next Trezor could look like(35:40) Advice for engineers who want to build in crypto security(37:27) The traditional awkward handshake (Outro) Secure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
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Quantum Threats, Bitcoin’s Future & Crypto Scams: A Chat With Trezor’s CTO
In this episode of Trezor Talks, Sean sits down with Tomáš Sušánka, the Chief Technology Officer at Trezor, to go deep on what it really takes to build secure hardware wallets and keep them safe from global threats.They cover everything from quantum computing and phishing scams to what Tomáš is most excited about in the next generation of Trezor devices.Get a rare behind-the-scenes look at how the Trezor Suite, firmware, and hardware all come together, and why combining hardware and software in crypto is uniquely hard.In this episode, you’ll discover:• What a day looks like as Trezor’s CTO (spoiler: no more coding)• Why hardware adds complexity to scaling in crypto• The future of post-quantum security and what it means for Bitcoin & Trezor• The advice Tomáš would give to anyone entering crypto security todayWhether you're an aspiring engineer, someone trying to secure your crypto, or are just curious how your Trezor works under the hood, this episode is for you!Timestamps:(00:00) What does it take to run Trezor’s technology operations? (Introduction)(03:25) Origin story & tech background (discovering Bitcoin)(09:23) Joining Trezor in 2017: journey to CTO (10:34) Difference between software, firmware & hardware(13:57) A day in the life of a crypto CTO(16:53) Why scaling hardware + software is hard in crypto(20:22) How Trezor defends users from scams & hackers(28:50) Big challenges for Trezor and the wider crypto industry(36:02) What’s coming next at Trezor (upgrades!)(38:02) Common threats to crypto(44:30) Is quantum computing a threat to Trezor?(51:56) Advice for engineers who want to build in crypto security(54:17) The traditional awkward handshake (outro)Secure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/
Welcome to Trezor Talks, the official podcast from the creators of the world’s first crypto hardware wallet. Join us at Trezor, as we dive deep into insightful conversations with our team of experts, industry thought leaders, and innovators shaping the future of crypto security.
Whether you're new to crypto or a seasoned pro, Trezor Talks is here to offer a fresh perspective on the world of digital assets, security, and self-custody.
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