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#258 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part Two
Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing. In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shared how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. Today, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?Key Highlights of Our Interview:Building a Village for Every Stage of Life“Overalls is essentially your village… supporting you through life’s messier, more complex situations, like helping an elderly parent or finding summer camps for kids.”A Rare Benefit That Earns Employee Appreciation“This is one of the first times HR is getting thanked by employees for a benefit… they’re amazed at how thankful employees are for the support.”Confidence in Uncharted Territory“The biggest challenge was… do I have the skill set to do these things? Am I qualified to make some of these decisions?… In this environment, it’s all core because again, if you’re not doing it, it’s not getting done.”Keep Your Goals in Sight: Write Them Down“We can get distracted… By writing it down, being honest with ourselves, talking to others, that’ll help us hold ourselves accountable to what it is that we’re looking for.”The Power of Focus and Manifesting the Right Move“I wasn’t reaching out to a million people… I was focused, determined to put the time and energy in. My excitement led me to take a risk, and it worked._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guests: Alison Stewart
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#257 Alison Stewart: The LinkedIn Message That Changed Everything — Part One
Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing. In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shares how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. We talk about career pivots, gut instincts, and how she slid into her co-founder’s inbox like a pro. Tomorrow, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?Key Highlights of Our Interview:"What Am I Doing?” – Hitting Pause on the Corporate Grind“During the pandemic, time started blending together. I had to stop and ask, what am I doing? Am I happy?” Those months at home made me realize how I’d been running on autopilot, stuck in a cycle of new leadership teams and constant resets. With every change, it felt like we were taking ten steps back just to make one forward."“The Safety Net of a Strong Company” – Navigating Stability vs. Fulfillment“You can get caught up in…having a strong company, great group of colleagues…new opportunities coming at you. But it might not be what truly motivates you.”“Controlling for Risk Factors” – Making Thoughtful Career Moves“I was trying to control for those risk factors, or at least account for them…what was I comfortable with? How would it impact my family?”“Overalls Caught My Eye” – The Power of an Unexpected Spark“I was sitting at work…reading about the launch of Overalls, and I got really excited. People almost stopped me, saying, ‘Allison, nothing gives you as much excitement as this opportunity."“Taking Skills Beyond Insurance” – Exploring New Industries on LinkedIn“I was interested in exploring something outside the insurance industry…how does my experience, how do my skills translate, and how do I communicate them effectively?”____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guests: Alison Stewart
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#256 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part Two
If your brain just short-circuited at the phrase “Brain Summit at the Super Bowl,” you’re not alone. In Part 2, Nicole dives into the backstory of Generosity WINS, the book she co-authored with Monty Wood—and how they turned a business idea into a human story with real voices, a fictional lead, and zero fluff. Spoiler: there’s a QR code in the book that leads you to the actual humans behind the wisdom.This episode is part research, part heart, and all human. If you’ve ever doubted whether generosity can be a strategy, Nicole will change your mind.Key Highlights of Our Interview:ROI of Generosity? – “You can’t measure karma with a spreadsheet.” But Nicole explains why generosity still pays back—in time, trust, and unexpected career breaks.Behind the Book – How a business fable with real people became a new kind of leadership playbook.Meet Emily (She’s Fictional) – Why a made-up hotel manager ties it all together, and what hospitality has to do with generosity.Can You Teach Generosity? – Nicole’s answer will surprise you—and it involves boys’ schools and grief.The Brain Summit at the Super Bowl – Concussions, jazz, neuroscience, and 5,000 of their “closest friends”—how Nicole built a brain health movement in America’s loudest weekend._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Dr. Nicole F. Roberts
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#255 Nicole F. Roberts: From Neuroscience to Generosity—Changing Lives, One Detour at a Time — Part One
You don’t earn the title “Dr.” and then co-author a book about kindness by sticking to a script. In Part 1, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, neuroscience nerd, and co-author of Generosity WINS—takes us through her very non-linearjourney. From failed chemistry dreams to starting a human rights firm during her PhD “break,” Nicole’s path proves that detours can be more meaningful than the original plan.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Chemistry Flop That Sparked a New Career – “I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”From Neuroscience to Public Policy to Public Health – The career pivot map that should be framed as modern art.A Six-Month Break That Turned Into Six Years – “My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm.” (As one does.)Why Policy ≠ Change – “Policy is great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see the change I wanted to make.”Finding Her Real Voice – How lived experience reshaped her doctoral research and her purpose.If you’ve ever hit pause on your career, doubted your direction, or rerouted your GPS mid-PhD—this episode is proof it’s not the end. It might be the best part._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Dr. Nicole F. Roberts
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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#254 Deborah Perry Piscione: The End of Traditional Work Begins — Part Two
What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus what it means for companies that refuse to adapt.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Future of Learning – “My son skipped college, built a six-figure business at 15, and spent a year in Antarctica learning survival skills. That kind of real-world experience? You can’t teach that in a classroom.” Why degrees are losing their grip, and how alternative education paths are creating a new kind of talent pipeline.Employment is Dead? – “No, I’m not saying people should sit in their parents’ basement playing video games. I’m saying we don’t have to tolerate outdated, soul-crushing jobs anymore.” Deborah sets the record straight on the book’s provocative title.What Companies Must Do Now – “One person can now do the job of three or four. So what happens to the others? If companies don’t plan for that, they’ll lose their best people before they even see it coming.” Why leaders need to rethink how they train, retain, and engage talent before AI and Web3 force their hand.Work3 and the New Rules of Employment – “We built the Work3 Institute to help companies move forward before they get left behind. The question isn’t ‘Will work change?’ It’s ‘Are you ready for it?’” How Deborah and Josh Drean are guiding businesses through the transformation._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Deborah Perry Piscione__________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
What’s Stopping You from Outgrowing Yourself?
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
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