How We Got Away with Murder

Frank Delfino aka Charlie Weber (Or is it the other way around?) joins Jack and Matt for his very first podcast appearance, calling in from a sunny 72-degree Santa Monica to talk about the winding road that brought him to one of TV's most unforgettable characters. From playing ball at Mizzou to getting inspired by Pulp Fiction, surviving a modeling scam (his looks were so convincing the scammers went legit), and landing some iconic Abercrombie spre ads, Charlie's path to Hollywood was anything but direct. An overnight success, they say! And it only took 14 years.
Charlie opens up about the real anxieties of being a working actor, the massive character swing he took with Frank, and why he compares his relationship to the role the way Stallone talks about Rocky. He also shares a major breakthrough: you don't have to torture yourself to be good. Plus: airport bar alter egos, a laughing fit that takes everyone down, and styling his own hair for four seasons. Charlie also has a new film on the way, Highest Stakes, so stay tuned!
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Episode 7 picks up as Annalise and her team double down on defending Rebecca while the case gets messier and more public by the minute, with shifting alliances, personal stakes, and new details emerging about the night of Sam’s death.
On the podcast, Matt and Jack break down what it’s actually like to act drunk (and the different tactics behind pulling it off), the real story behind the “emotional support pillow” that wasn’t actually supporting emotions, and tease an upcoming episode that might reveal which actor is most different from their character, all while continuing to piece together the chaos of the case and the mystery of what really happened on Night X.
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Episode 6 is one for the ages. Not only do we get a major turning point for Asher, as his worldview is challenged in ways we haven’t seen before, culminating in a tense confrontation with his father, but we also get an Annalise courtroom monologue that leaves us breathless and in awe of the power of Viola Davis’s performance. Meanwhile, behind-the-scenes goodies include Matt’s memory of his epic “lip sync battle” and how Jack almost became the voice of MTV. Don’t miss this one!
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Get ready, HTGAWM fans — Katie Findlay joins Matt and Jack to revisit their time playing Rebecca Sutter, from the early days of casting to discovering Rebecca’s trademark style and look once the show was rolling. Katie shares how they navigated the uncertainty of not knowing Rebecca’s full arc, and how that shaped their performance as new details were constantly revealed. Also, did we mention Katie loves soup? Now you know. Tune in for a revealing and fun look back at one of Season 1’s most intriguing characters.
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In Episode 5, “We’re Not Friends,” we start to see the early evolution of Connor and Asher’s dynamic and how that unexpected friendship started to take shape both on-screen and off. Matt and Jack share memories of building that chemistry in real time, alongside a deep dive into the show’s famously fast-paced dialogue. From memorizing dense legal jargon to finding a rhythm that made it feel natural under pressure, the guys look at how those early character beats and actor choices helped define the series.
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