Whiskey Web and Whatnot

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Courage & Conviction American Single Malt and dive into the AI arms race, deterministic models versus word vomit machines, and whether Jev is the future of intelligent software or just another hype cycle waiting to crash. They dig into the developer grind, stealing time from sleep, the AI slow down debate, Jev as the deterministic probability only AI, real time Jev in Doom and Smash Bros, intelligent gates that bypass LLM slop, Jev's three core ideas, trading bots running 100 times faster, smoking whiskey with pear wood, the paperclip problem and how AI might kill us, why Adam's all in on Astra, model degradation and thinking levels, context windows as seasoned pans, Delta and Herder as multiplayer agent tools, corporate AI tooling and the native harness advantage, Ocarina of Time remake versus digital ownership nightmares, and an arrow through the living room window because Adam sat down to play banjo instead of teaching the eighth kid how to use a compound bow.
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Intro
00:00:43 Welcome Back & The Developer Grind
00:03:13 Tasting: Courage & Conviction American Single Malt
00:07:46 The AI "Slow Down" Debate
00:09:10 Meet Jev: Deterministic, Probability-Only AI
00:14:50 Jev in Real Time: Doom, Smash Bros & Intelligent Gates
00:20:57 Jev's Three Core Ideas
00:23:27 Stealing Time From Sleep & Jev Trading Bots
00:27:06 Smoking the Whiskey With Pear Wood
00:31:37 How Will AI Kill Us? The Paperclip Problem
00:42:36 Why Adam's All-In on Astra
00:46:37 Model Degradation, Thinking Levels & Context Windows
00:50:59 Delta, Herder & Multiplayer Agent Tools
00:58:03 Corporate AI Tooling & The Native-Harness Advantage
01:02:45 Whatnot: Ocarina of Time Remake & Digital Ownership
01:07:11 An Arrow Through the Living Room Window & nerdy.dev's Like Button

Links
Courage & Conviction American Single Malt: https://courageandconviction.com/
Jev: https://jev.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Astra: https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astra/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Delta: https://zed.dev/delta
Herder: https://herdr.dev
Warp: https://warp.dev
SubQ: https://subq.ai/
Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)
Super Smash Bros: https://www.smashbros.com/
Paperclip Problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
Zed: https://zed.dev/
Slack: https://slack.com
Discord: https://discord.com/
Ocarina of Time Remake: https://www.nintendo.com/
Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Oak and Eden Bourbon with Amburana Spiral and dive into building software that actually works, AI code reviews that roast your PRs, and whether engineering is dead or just hiding behind a gauntlet loop. They dig into Doorway, the ADHD task helper app that stops you from forgetting why you walked into a room, dark factory workflows where agents grind while you watch, iterative AI loops that beat the slop out of your code until it's good, Creator Micro unboxing and personal software revolution, Muse Glimmer as the jealous local model that disses Claude, and why coding dopamine is gone but engineering still matters. Along the way, they debate whether taste still matters when everyone has the same LLMs, speech to text versus typing, robotic lawnmowers named Jeff that can't find the street, CSS signals and scroll axis liberation, Oak and Eden custom whiskey builder as the first MCP enabled agentic experience, Big Red cinnamon bear claws with coconut sprinkles, mulled cider vibes and Christmas in a glass, gauntlet loops versus slip and slides, adversarial reviews that always find something, punk ass versus Glimmer in a jealous AI showdown, watermarks on AI images getting stripped the same day, free tokens at cafes instead of free Wi-Fi, personal private software living on your home network, discovering your 3D printer's API and making a dashboard in five minutes, design patterns versus laying bricks, and why the gang of four matters more than ever.
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:01:05 Tasting: Oak and Eden Bourbon with Amburana Spiral
00:07:03 Building Doorway: The ADHD Task Helper App
00:09:53 Dark Factory Life: AI Code Reviews & The Speed Trap
00:12:41 The Gauntlet Loop: Building Better with Iterative AI
00:27:31 Creator Micro Unboxing & Personal Software Revolution
00:33:45 Muse Glimmer & The Jealous AI Problem
00:48:11 Engineering vs Coding: The Dopamine Drought
00:54:07 CSS Signals & Scroll Axis Liberation
01:02:51 Jeff the Mower's Street Adventures & Wrap Up

Links
Oak and Eden Bourbon: https://oakandeden.com/
Doorway App: https://doorway.help/
Doorway: https://whydidiwalkinhere.com
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Fable: https://fable.app/
Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/
Muse Glimmer: https://ai.meta.com/
CloudKit: https://developer.apple.com/icloud/cloudkit/
Swift: https://swift.org/
Astro: https://astro.build/
GSAP: https://greensock.com/gsap/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/
Codex Micro: https://worklouder.cc/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
CSS Scroll Axis: https://nerdy.dev/scroll-axis
CSS Signals: https://nerdy.dev/css-signals
AMP Fitness: https://amp.ai/
Tonal: https://www.tonal.com/
Elegoo 3D Printer: https://www.elegoo.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Chicken Cock Small Batch Kentucky Bourbon and dive into building mobile apps with Claude, CSS infinity, MySpace's comeback, and whether 2026 is just 2006 but way more expensive. They dig into the Doorway app for ADHD task tracking, voice dictation workflows, AI keyboards, Steve Yegge's hot takes on CICD and code review, mental health in the age of agents, design system chaos, LLM failures, why Opus 5 still wins, and skull.style as the future of passive income. Along the way, they debate MySpace's return and nostalgia culture, retro gaming and digital ownership, CSS layers and Tailwind quirks, prop for that and responsive border radiuses, infinity pixels breaking browsers, treating agents nice versus yelling at them, caveman prompting versus verbose explanations, dark factories and internal bleeding, human code review being dead, agent overload and mental health decline, whiskey build times as a metaphor for patience, and why five year feedback loops sound like torture.
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In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:02:15 Tasting: Chicken Cock Small Batch Kentucky Bourbon
00:13:31 Building a Mobile App with Claude: The Doorway App
00:19:46 MySpace Is Coming Back & 2026 Is Just 2006 But More Expensive
00:26:59 CSS Infinity, Layers & Prop For That
00:46:53 Voice Dictation, AI Keyboards & The Future of Coding
00:49:14 Steve Yegge's Take: Are Code Review & CI/CD Doomed?
00:50:44 Mental Health, Dark Factories & The Agent Overload Problem
00:54:50 Design Systems, LLM Failures & Why Opus 5 Still Wins
01:01:22 Whiskey Build Times & Skull.Style: The Clothing Brand Journey

Links
Chicken Cock Bourbon: https://chickencockwhiskey.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Claude Desktop: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/desktop
Xcode: https://developer.apple.com/xcode/
Impeccable: https://impeccable.style/
MySpace: https://myspace.com/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Prop For That: https://github.com/argyleink/prop-for-that
CSS Infinity Article: https://nerdy.dev/css-infinity
Herder: https://herdr.dev
Warp: https://warp.dev
Buzz: https://github.com/block/buzz
Slack: https://slack.com
Work Louder OpenAI Keyboard: https://worklouder.cc/
Opus 5: https://www.anthropic.com/
Fable: https://fable.app/
Playwright: https://playwright.dev/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Skull.Style: https://skull.style/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam catch up over Redemption Rye to talk token budgets, worktrees, and whether the harness era is already over. They dig into the abrupt shutdown of GitHub Copilot at work, Bob as the internal AI replacement, branch protection rules that block releases, spec driven development with self documenting agents, and why giving models less context actually produces better results. Along the way, they debate whether frameworks still matter when LLMs write the code, server side renaissance versus thick client ceremony, slop as a choice versus slop as history, the meta harness layer that routes to other harnesses, Jeff the lawnmower that yeets itself off cliffs, Roombas that eat socks and bonk into walls, amp.ai as the smart Bowflex you mount on studs, HSA funded home gyms, and why Redemption Rye tastes like maple and black pepper until it doesn't.
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In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:06:56 Copilot Crisis: When AI Gets Yanked Mid-Workflow
00:11:52 Context Overload: Why Less Prompt Is More
00:15:31 Spec-Driven Development & Worktree Workflows
00:18:50 Token Limits & The End of the Subsidized AI Era
00:24:55 Fable AI Returns: Overhyped or Underdelivered?
00:26:55 Slop vs Spaghetti: Code Quality Was Always Questionable
00:34:52 The Framework Debate: Are We Over-Engineering Everything?
00:41:57 Meta-Harnesses & The One Tool to Rule Them All
00:45:38 Conjure: Building Apps from Service Design & User Flows
00:48:59 Jeff the Lawnmower: When Robots Fail Spectacularly
00:54:52 Smart Fitness & The AMP Workout Machine
01:00:17 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts

Links
Redemption Rye: https://redemptionwhiskey.com/
Sagamore Rye: https://sagamorespirit.com/
GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/
Fable: https://fable.app/
Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
React: https://react.dev/
React Native: https://reactnative.dev/
Vite: https://vitejs.dev/
Prop For That: https://github.com/argyleink/prop-for-that
Conjure: https://conjure.dev/
Roomba: https://www.irobot.com/
Amp.ai: https://amp.ai/
Tonal: https://www.tonal.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Denver Cramer—industrial designer, entrepreneur, photographer, distiller, and creator of the globally recognized Denver and Lylee glassware brand—to talk whiskey glasses, design philosophy, and whether AI will replace the next generation's jobs. They dig into Starward single malt finished in Lagavulin cask, Melbourne's Four Seasons climate, red wine barrel aging, the grassiness fading into sweetness, Pappy versus Weller 12, blind taste testing Flamin' Hot Cheetos, and why Octomore 8.3 is the ultimate peat monster. Along the way, they debate designing glasses for corn versus barley based spirits, the bourbon glass chode, smelling at the top versus the bottom of the glass, the turbine wine glass that Ryan Reynolds loved, eight years of R&D, passion projects versus commercial products, raising kids in the world before and after AI, teaching them to code with retro video games, making YouTube videos with Legos, screens as tools not babysitters, playing instruments versus making instruments, luthiers versus engineers, planting 400 Pinot Noir vines to learn winemaking, trumpet and piano and guitar, and why the banjo is part drum part guitar part lead singer.
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In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:04:00 Tasting Starward x Lagavulin: Red Wine Meets Peat
00:12:38 Ultimate Whiskey Drams & Desert Island Albums
00:28:30 The Science & Soul of Glass Design
00:40:50 From Christmas Present to Global Brand
00:43:00 AI, Kids & The Future of Work
00:57:40 Passion Projects vs Capitalism: Building with Soul
01:07:09 Music, Instruments & The Luthier Mindset
01:13:15 Banjo Performance & Wrap Up

Links
Starward Whisky: https://starward.com.au/
Lagavulin: https://www.malts.com/en-us/brands/lagavulin/
Denver and Liely Glassware: https://denverandliely.com/
Octomore: https://www.bruichladdich.com/
Pappy Van Winkle: https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/
Weller: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html
Scarabus: https://www.scarabus.com/
Compass Box: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/
Sagamore Rye: https://sagamorespirit.com/
Canon Whiskey Bar: https://www.cannonwhiskeybar.com/
Deltron 3030: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltron_3030
Jimmy Eat World Bleed American: https://www.jimmyeatworld.com/
Bruce Springsteen: https://brucespringsteen.net/
Gospel Rye: https://gospelwhiskey.com/
Wild Turkey 101: https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/
Glendronach: https://www.glendronachdistillery.com/
Dalwhinnie: https://www.malts.com/en-us/brands/dalwhinnie/
Intel Pantec Lake: https://www.intel.com/
C.W. Stoneking: https://www.cwstoneking.com/
Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/
Connect with Denver
Website: https://denverandliely.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/denverandliely/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
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