Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery

Carl Tanzler had a major crush on one of his patients—an obsession that did not end even after her death.

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Sources:

https://www.kqed.org/pop/106807/meet-carl-von-cosel-the-man-who-slept-next-to-his-crushs-corpse-for-7-years

https://www.americanhauntingsink.com/voncosel

https://www.museumfacts.co.uk/carl-tanzler-and-elena-de-hoyos/

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/morbid-monday-the-macabre-romance-of-a-man-and-a-mummy

https://birdinflight.com/world/20200416-carl-tanzler.html

https://allthatsinteresting.com/carl-tanzler

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

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Fawn Marie Mountain disappeared from Claysburg, Pennsylvania in 2012. At the time of her disappearance, she was in a relationship with a reportedly abusive, controlling woman named Heather Dibert. The police investigation didn’t start until 2015, three years after she was last seen. This case is infuriating.

If you have any information at all related to Fawn Marie Mountain, even if you don’t know how useful it could be, please call the Pennsylvania State Police (814) 696-6100 or the Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers 1-800-4PA-TIPS.

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Sources:

https://wjactv.com/news/local/where-is-fawn-mountain-blair-county-womans-disappearance-gets-world-wide-attention

https://original.newsbreak.com/@shenba-1589610/2376803327577-the-disturbingly-bizarre-disappearance-of-pennsylvania-s-fawn-mountain

https://www.huntingdondailynews.com/daily_herald/news/finding-fawn-mountain-a-familys-search-for-answers/article_f0c60612-e3e0-5e2b-b15e-f76c7db49559.html

https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/Fawn_Mountain https://wjactv.com/news/local/altoona-family-asks-for-help-finding-missing-woman

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/lkfdtb/runaway_or_murdered_by_a_controlling_partnerwhat/

https://www.wearecentralpa.com/wtaj-plus/have-you-seen-me/have-you-seen-me-case-1-fawn-mountain/

https://www.verywellmind.com/the-cycle-of-sexual-abuse-22460

https://wjactv.com/news/local/bedford-county-woman-sentenced-to-up-to-40-years-for-attempted-murder-in-arson-plot

https://www.altoonamirror.com/news/local-news/2025/12/bedford-duncansville-dibert-arson-for-hire-sentenced/

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

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Ken McElroy was a bully. He spent most of his time making the rest of the residents of Skidmore, Missouri miserable. He was a known thief, rapist, arsonist, and child molester who was rarely punished for his crimes. One day, the people of Skidmore got tired of it.

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Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/09/03/fbi-closes-inquiry-into-the-killing-of-a-town-bully/2cad5c27-e59f-4242-8b0b-3e9b47ad5926/

http://nowiknow.com/the-unsolved-murder-of-ken-mcelroy/

https://allthatsinteresting.com/ken-mcelroy

https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/ken-mcelroy-killed-in-broad-daylight-fac2e3db5c6b

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/574749/ken-mcelroy-murder-skidmore-missouri

https://patch.com/us/across-america/who-killed-ken-rex-mcelroy-town-keeps-its-secret-38-years

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

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Another round of listener stories today. Enjoy!

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Listener Emails

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

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In 1920s Chicago, Tillie Klimek seemed to have an unsettling gift: she could predict when the people around her were going to die. But when one husband survived long enough for doctors to discover arsenic in his system, investigators began to wonder whether Tillie wasn’t predicting death at all—she was planning it.

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Sources:

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/guilty-is-klimek-verdict/docview/180477844/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/tillie-klimek-is-strong-witness-own-defense/docview/180453327/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/mrs-klimek-is-formally-held-poison-death/docview/175083939/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/mystery-deaths-poison-case-may-reach-20/docview/174991920/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/klimek-poison-list-is-twenty-arrest-1-more/docview/175050889/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/how-mrs-klimek-jested-death-husband-told/docview/180486247/se-2

https://chipublib.idm.oclc.org/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/grave-digger-tells-goings-on-at-klimeks/docview/180465757/se-2

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/11/19/21563154/this-week-in-history-tillie-klimek-chicago-serial-killer

https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=AMNEWS&docref=news/163244C312AE49A0

https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=AMNEWS&docref=image/v2%3A176820A8B9EC1C11%40EANX-NB-16C3529F71BE60F1%402426494-16C2115FA42D89A6%402-16C2115FA42D89A6%40

https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=AMNEWS&docref=image/v2%3A176820A8B9EC1C11%40EANX-NB-16C22ACF9EC2C604%402426669-16C172605C3A5DE6%409-16C172605C3A5DE6%40

https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=AMNEWS&docref=image/v2%3A176820A8B9EC1C11%40EANX-NB-16C3D040C58001FC%402428493-16C3CB8353C95CCE%4081

https://archive.org/details/criminalhisallie0000kava

https://www.iroquoistheater.com/marcus-kavanagh-circuit-court-judge-iroquois-theater-fire.php

https://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/klimek-tillie.htm

https://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/klimek-tillie-photos.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tillie_Klimek

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.

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