Atlassian Everything Podcast

Is "pure Agile" still the best way to get work done, or has it become a corporate burden? This episode is brought to you by GitProtect - our go-to backup solution, trusted and recommended to every customer who takes their security seriously 🔗 https://bit.ly/4pHDXyg Josh sits down with Atlassian expert Aaron Geister to tear down the walls of modern project management. They dive deep into why traditional Scrum often fails in the real world, why Story Points might be a "fake" metric, and why the hardest part of any project isn't the code, it's the people.From the psychology of UI changes (the infamous Jira Status button saga) to the future of the Atlassian ecosystem and their acquisition of the Arc browser, we explore where the industry is heading in 2025.🔑 Takeaways• Story Points can be arbitrary and not always effective.• Kanban may provide a better flow of work than Scrum.• User change management is a significant challenge in software development.• Atlassian's growth may lead to a shift in company culture and product direction.• The more you estimate tasks, the better you become at it.• Different teams may require different methodologies to succeed.• Atlassian's direction may appeal to both shareholders and users.• User experience changes can disrupt established workflows.• The future of work management tools may include AI integration.• Atlassian could explore opportunities in the CRM market. 📌 Episode Timestamps:00:00 - 01:37 Why "Pure Agile" isn't always the answer for work management
01:37 - 03:06 The Story Point Trap: Why arbitrary metrics fail teams 03:06 - 04:36 Flow Metrics & Pro-Kanban: Keeping the work moving 04:36 - 06:17 Time Estimates vs. T-Shirt Sizing: Improving accuracy over time 06:17 - 08:28 The Familiarity Bias: Why teams stick to Scrum even when it’s not best 08:28 - 10:23 Hardware vs. Software: Why one methodology doesn't fit all
10:23 - 14:02 Creating your own process: When to go Waterfall vs. Agile
14:02 - 17:42 Atlassian’s "Puberty": How going public changes company culture and product 17:42 - 20:25 Balancing shareholders vs. the community in the age of AI
20:25 - 24:41The Status Button Saga: Do users actually know what they want? 24:41 - 29:01UI Evolution: Why muscle memory is the biggest barrier to innovation 29:01 - 32:58 Adapt or Die: Why legacy tools must modernize to survive
32:58 - 35:50 The Browser Strategy: Why Atlassian is moving into the Arc browser space 35:50 - 38:16 Atlassian as an Identity Provider (IDP)? 38:16 - 41:45 Predicting the future: Is Atlassian building a CRM to kill Salesforce? 41:45 - 45:04 The 5-Year Challenge: Predicting the next big move in the ecosystem

Alex Ortiz (Dr. Jira) is BACK! In this exclusive sit-down, we go beyond the official documentation to uncover what’s really happening inside the Atlassian ecosystem. From the "wild west" of Jira configurations to the aggressive corporate chess moves being played by competitors like Asana, Alex and Josh pull back the curtain on the world’s most powerful productivity suite.🔥 This episode is brought to you by GitProtect - our go-to backup solution, trusted and recommended to every customer who takes their security seriously 🔗 https://links.gryd.io/hORtOkG Inside This Episode:• The Jira Paradox: Why the "best and worst thing" about Jira is that there’s no right way to use it—and how that leads to chaos in most companies.• The License Wars: A look at Asana’s $250k "unlimited" strategy to steal Atlassian’s lunch and why Jira desperately needs a "Stakeholder License."• Enterprise vs. Innovation: Is Atlassian moving too fast for its own good? We discuss why moving a single "Status Button" can cause a meltdown in a 100,000-person company.• The Origin Story: For the first time publicly, Alex shares the "exclusive" story of how he actually became Dr. Jira (it involves an HVAC company and a lot of eggs).•The Future of Work: Has Atlassian peaked? We analyze the next 5 years of AI, the data center void, and the startups waiting to take the crown.Takeaways• The beauty of Jira lies in its flexibility.• Every team has a unique way of using Jira.• There is no one-size-fits-all approach to project management tools.• Using Jira effectively is about finding what works for your team.• The cooking analogy highlights the importance of adaptability.• Success with Jira depends on the team's specific needs.• Different teams can achieve success with different methods.• Flexibility in tools can lead to innovative solutions.• Understanding your team's workflow is crucial for effective tool usage.• Coaching teams on tool usage requires understanding their unique dynamics.Chapters: 00:00 – The "No Right Way" Problem: Why zero overlap between teams is dangerous.10:44 – EXCLUSIVE: How I became "Dr. Jira."24:54 – ABS vs. Team '24: Why tactical, community-led events are winning.40:36 – The Enterprise Pivot: Is Atlassian leaving small teams behind?54:54 – The Stakeholder Problem: Why VPs hate logging into Jira.01:03:25 – Big announcements for the next major event.

In this episode, we sit down with Michael Kuhl — former Manager of Growth Analytics at Appfire, one of the biggest players in the Atlassian ecosystem — to unpack what’s really happening in the Marketplace right now.🔥 This episode is brought to you by GitProtect - our go-to backup solution, trusted and recommended to every customer who takes their security seriously 🔗 https://bit.ly/4pHDXyg If you build Atlassian apps, work as a Solution Partner, or run services around Jira/Confluence, this conversation is a massive wake-up call.We break down:🔥 Why the “old app era” is collapsing🔥 Why tiny feature apps are dying and won’t survive🔥 How Atlassian’s enterprise shift is reshaping the ecosystem🔥 The truth behind Marketplace distribution and why it no longer works🔥 Why Atlassian is absorbing top app ideas into the core product🔥 The new winning strategy: Solutions + services + defensible IP🔥 How AI will turn Jira into a backend and change how devs work🔥 What the F1 sponsorship really signals about Atlassian’s direction🔥 Why solution partners MUST own their own IP in the futureMichael also shares insights from Salesforce, Facebook, Amazon, OpenAI, and the broader “distribution channel evolution” that every platform goes through — and why the Atlassian ecosystem is no exception.Whether you’re building apps, running consulting, or just curious about the future of Atlassian…This episode will change the way you see the Marketplace.

Why do so many teams keep switching tools — and still fail?Jira. ClickUp. Notion. Monday. New platform, same chaos.In this episode, Gray MacKenzie (ClickUp expert, ZenPilot) and Josh Golosinkiy (Jira expert, GRYD.IO) break down the uncomfortable truth:💥 It’s not about tools.💥 It’s not about features.💥 It’s about habits, process, and discipline.We go deep on:• Why teams switch from Jira to ClickUp (and back again)• The hidden cost of tool fatigue• Why “flexibility” often creates chaos• How AI is exposing — not fixing — bad workflows• The difference between process maturity and tool addictionContrarian POV:“You don’t need a new tool. You need new habits.”If you’ve ever felt like your tech stack is growing but your output isn’t — this one will hit hard.

Jira was never designed for the average user. Chris Cooke saw that — and turned user pain into product gold. In this no-holds-barred episode, he breaks down how he bootstrapped Custom Charts into a $10M business, why most Atlassian apps still suck, and what happens when you zig while everyone else zags.No fluff. No corporate polish. Just raw lessons on UX, app strategy, and building for the 99% of users who’d rather burn the manual than read it.