What has happened in the past 100 days to America’s science and technology ecosystem? What are China's ambitions and how is the government trying to take advantage of American uncertainty? And what can we learn from China's war mobilization exercises?
To explore these questions, we're joined by Divyansh Kaushik and Alex Rubin, who both work at Beacon Global Strategies. Divyansh holds an AI PhD from Carnegie Mellon, and Alex spent the past decade at the CIA focusing on China and emerging technologies.
We discuss…
The Historical origins of the US R&D model, and the division of labor between universities, government, and industry,
How budget cuts will impact the NSF, NIH, NIST, and DoD basic research,
Why and how China attempts to emulate US research institutions,
What a leaked wargame exercise from Guangdong province can tell us about China’s grand strategy,
How institutions like ChinaTalk can complement the IC with fresh, independent research.
Outro music: The Elements - Tom Lehrer (YouTube Link)
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1:11:52
China's Nuclear Shadow
Can China use military force to achieve its political goals, without triggering nuclear war? To find out, ChinaTalk interviewed Fiona Cunningham, a professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania and author of the new book, Under the Nuclear Shadow: China’s Information-Age Weapons in International Security.
Co-hosting today is Michael Horowitz, another Penn professor who served in Biden’s Department of Defense.
We discuss…
How to use open source PLA documents to conduct deep research,
The evolution of Chinese defense strategy, including the impact of the third Taiwan Strait crisis,
Nuclear modernization and China’s “no first use” policy,
How the PLA makes decisions, including why they chose to develop cyber capabilities, anti-satellite weapons, and hypersonic missiles over proposed alternatives.
Outtro Music: Beauty by Gui Bian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlfSOCwYJ8
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2:00:52
Will Everyone Get Nukes Now?
What is Trump doing to extended deterrence?
I got Polymarket to create a market on whether a US ally will acquire nuclear weapons in 2025. It’s currently trading at 8%. Are we buyers or sellers?
To discuss, ChinaTalk interviewed Vipin Narang, professor at MIT, who served as Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense responsible for nuclear deterrence policy during the Biden administration; Pranay Vaddi, a senior fellow at the Center for Nuclear Security Policy at MIT who worked on arms control and non-proliferation on Biden’s National Security Council; and Junichi Fukuda, senior research fellow at Tokyo’s Sasakawa Peace Foundation.
We get into…
The historical development of the American nuclear umbrella, including the “software” and “hardware” components of deterrence,
The probability that an American ally will proliferate by 2030, and which countries are the most likely candidates,
Why France proliferated despite US objections,
How the world might respond to nuclear ambitions from Poland, Japan, or Saudi Arabia,
China’s nuclear modernization and deterrence strategies for a multi-polar world.
Here's the RAND paper cited: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GUMnuxWoapmEYCw3g3NMUHxzZ6hVwWPi/view?usp=sharing
Outro music: Tom Lehrer - Who's Next? (YouTube Link)
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1:17:01
Allied Scale: Rush Doshi on US-China Net Assessment
Rush Doshi (CFR, Biden NSC, author of the excellent The Long Game) and I run through the US-China tale of the tape. The future of America's relationship with its allies may be the key hinge variable for whether this century turns out to be China's to define. Do give this one a listen. Especially if you're JD Vance!
See Rush's Foreign Affairs article with Kurt Campbell here: https://archive.is/ZSTKP
Some Japanese outtro music to give the allies some love:
Karenai by Bonbero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJcIOMsOaU&ab_channel=Bonbero
What's Popping by JP THE WAVY and friends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1LOXU_hBNo&ab_channel=JPTHEWAVY
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1:13:33
Chips: Liberated? Trump’s Semis Tariff Gambit
Bill Reinsch of CSIS and the Trade Guys podcast with Jay Goldberg of Digits and Dollars and the Circuit podcast join to dicuss Trump's tariff impact on semis on another CSIS-ChinaTalk Chip Chat!
Bill lays out the four clashing instincts driving policy in MAGA 2.0: revenge for decades of perceived slights, a bargaining bluff to coerce concessions, a fast‑cash revenue grab, and a fantasy of instant on‑shore fab construction.
Jay walks through the on‑the‑ground fallout: chip designers worrying about losing China sales, GPU‑specific duties warping supply chains, and a loophole that lets boards assembled in Mexico skate by.
We explore how blanket tariffs could accelerate China’s ascent in analog and trailing‑edge chips, undermine Biden‑era “ally‑first” export‑control diplomacy, and leave Commerce’s BIS badly under‑resourced to enforce the rules.
We also get into whether allies will sign up for Washington’s crusade after being slapped themselves, and whether Nvidia, Intel, and Tesla are “too important to punish.”
Outtro Music: Well Get It, Tommy Dorsey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgiHzCiB5Aw
Bible‑Verse Sign‑off “Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.” — Proverbs 15:22
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