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  • Nurturing Outside of the Box: A Life Dedicated to Service | Yvonne Sinclair
    Szn 2 Ep 12 | What happens when the life you imagined disappears—and you say yes to what’s next, one small step at a time? In this deeply moving Portrait of a Matriarch episode, Elle sits down with Yvonne Sinclair, founder of Naru in Guatemala, whose story is part adventure, part quiet revolution. Yvonne’s life began in London’s marketing world, where stability looked perfect from the outside. But when her family life didn’t unfold as planned, she found herself stepping into the unknown—first through solo travel in Egypt, and then, unexpectedly, in the rural mountains of Guatemala. What started as a six-month commitment to help coffee workers became over two decades of living amidst cloud forests, serving thousands of malnourished children, and building bridges between worlds. Yvonne and Elle unpack the inner and outer journeys: from crafting an “escape bottom drawer” to discovering true purpose through service, simplicity, and relentless pragmatism. They discuss finding “enough,” releasing self-judgment, and the freedom that comes with aging and letting go. This episode is about transformation—not by grand design, but by answering one ordinary yes after another. You’ll hear about the joys and heartbreaks of living and working in remote Guatemala, the realities of sustainable change, and the deep meaning that comes from steady, grounded leadership. Whether you’re in the midst of personal loss, stuck in the waiting, or longing for purpose in unexpected places, Yvonne’s story will both comfort and challenge you. Timestamps: 00:00:51 – Episode Introduction 00:04:14 – The Turning Point 00:07:23 – Arriving in Guatemala 00:11:21 – Yvonne's Hero’s Journey 00:18:23 – Why Guatemala? 00:21:34 – The Malnourished Children 00:28:50 – Life in Guatemala 00:50:59 – The Wisdom of Enough Episode Links: Naru Guatemala's Website: https://naruguatemala.org/ Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own souls. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Becoming the Matriarch: Finding Your Joy in a New Era with Bev Aron
    Szn 2 Ep 11 | What if the next era of womanhood is actually the most powerful, joyful, and creative of all? In this heartfelt conversation, host Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Bev Aron to reimagine what it means to become the matriarch—not a martyr, but a woman rooted in wisdom, joy, and unwavering self-trust. Together, they explore how motherhood can be a journey of deep healing, not just for ourselves, but across generations. Bev Aron shares how her work as a coach was born out of her own transformation through motherhood, and why awareness—being a gentle observer of our own emotions—is the key to unlocking lasting change. From moving through overwhelm as a mom, to finally letting go of guilt and old patterns, Bev offers tangible practices to connect with your body, process emotions, and rediscover your light. This isn’t about having it all together. It’s about uncovering the joy and boldness that’s been inside you all along, no matter what age or stage you’re in. You’ll hear real talk about breaking cycles of self-judgment, tending to your own joy, outgrowing the need for outside validation, and embracing the creative possibilities that midlife brings. Timestamps: 00:02:25 – Motherhood sparked Bev’s self-discovery journey 00:06:26 – “Awareness is the portal to transformation” 00:09:39 – Generational healing begins with nurturing ourselves 00:11:04 – Layered healing brings natural joy, lightness 00:16:07 – "No thought police" means total mental freedom 00:17:16 – Bev embraces role as family matriarch 00:26:01 – Transition from active parenting to flexible support 00:43:08 – "Too late" is the most common limiting belief No matter what chapter of life you're in, this episode is a loving invitation to become the matriarch of your own life—full of possibility, light, and self-compassion. Show Links: Bev Aron's Deep Dive Coach Institute: http://bevaron.com/ Bev's daughter's blog on parenting books: https://myparentingpearls.wordpress.com/?fbclid=PAdGRleAMttQZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpy7SZqFRmz5p7pwVgXGvUlemZ1rAnr87MK_uYYx_-YfkgnuR4P_2FhmwMpE8_aem_MVa-0829NZpurW6eVtJj8Q Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop — About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • What Ancient Greece Teaches Us About Making Home a Refuge
    Sz 2 Ep 10 | What if the greatest act of heroism isn't conquering the world—but creating a home worth returning to? Elle explores the ancient art of homemaking as sacred work. Drawing from Homer's Odyssey, the Hero's Journey, and hospitality traditions spanning Greek xenia to Japanese omotenashi, she reveals how mothers and matriarchs don't just decorate spaces—they shape culture itself. Elle breaks down six powerful elements of creating refuge: rhythm, presence, peace, cultivation, welcome, and spirit. Through personal stories—from her grandparents' healing weekly routines to a friend's mother finding peace while caring for a non-verbal son—she shows how the work of tending a home ripples outward to repair the world.This isn't about Pinterest perfection. It's about meaning-making in a distracted world. Timestamps: 00:00 - Home as sacred act 02:33 - The Odyssey and xenia05:35 - Mother vs. Matriarch archetypes 10:41 - Element #1: Rhythm 13:45 - Element #2: Presence 16:19 - Element #3: Peace 20:22 - Element #4: Cultivation 23:25 - Element #5: Welcome 30:32 - Element #6: Spirit 34:09 - Closing thoughts Show links: Wall Street Journal / Wealthy Family Mission Statements / https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/wealthy-family-mission-statements-e08faabd?g[…]SW0O3ESdqHJbt2aaLeE01RCfIa0rUvSg7rl36cN69DHoBl2ARVmr2ySQQ%3D%3D Systematic Review: Routines and Child Development / https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jftr.12549?utm_source=chatgpt.com Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee" https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Why Moms Feel Bad About Feeling Bad (And How to Stop)
    Sz 2 Ep 9 | What if the hardest part of motherhood isn't the emotion itself—but what we do to ourselves after we feel it? In this solo episode, Elle unpacks one of the most invisible sources of suffering in motherhood: the pattern of feeling bad about feeling bad. She reveals how we take a natural human emotion—frustration, sadness, overwhelm—and then bury ourselves under layers of guilt, shame, and judgment. This isn't about toxic positivity or pretending hard emotions don't exist. It's about learning to recognize when we're digging ourselves deeper into the well... and how to stop. Elle shares personal stories from her early motherhood, a powerful moment teaching emotional skills to young girls, and a real coaching example that shows how one woman's "mess in every area" was actually just one emotion hiding under a mountain of self-judgment. You'll walk away with a simple three-step practice to drop the unnecessary suffering and befriend the emotions that actually hold the key to your growth. Timestamps: 01:34 - Feeling bad about feeling bad 04:37 - Primary vs. secondary emotions 06:39 - Something is wrong with me 07:40 - The three-step practice 10:43 - Case study: Coaching a friend 12:45 - Befriending your emotions Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Why Moms Miss Their Own Joy—and How to Get It Back
    Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle invites us to pause... to breathe... to stay for the exhale. As the leaves turn and the holidays begin, she explores a deceptively simple yet profound concept: truly experiencing the moments we create. It's not about doing more—it's about being more present in what we're already doing. Elle shares her journey from frantic holiday-maker to intentional memory-creator, offering a mini masterclass in emotional presence. She challenges us: Are we confusing participation with presence? Are we unconsciously fleeing from joy? From yoga mats to dinner tables, Elle provides practical wisdom for savoring life's exhales. It's time to linger, to ask one more question, to offer our full gaze. This isn't just about slowing down—it's about showing up fully for the life we're living. 🍂 Ready to transform your fall from frantic to fulfilling? Listen now. Timestamps: 00:00 - Fall reflections and the nurturer's season 04:06 - The "stay for the exhale" revelation 09:44 - Embracing the matriarch's wisdom 12:17 - The surprising challenge of tolerating joy 17:22 - Practical ways to linger in life's moments Down The Well Links: • YouTube Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w⁠ • Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley • Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks about how mothers can achieve that meaning and joy by going on their own hero's journey. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

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