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- When Glenn Fogel joined Priceline in 2000, the business was worth a few hundred million dollars. One week later, the Nasdaq peaked, eventually sending its stock down to a dollar a share. But over 25 years later, Booking Holdings has scaled over 1000x into an over $100 billion dollar global travel behemoth. Elad Gil is joined by Booking Holdings CEO Glenn Fogel to discuss his career, from law school and Wall Street to working at Priceline through the dot-com crash, and to helping grow the business into a multifaceted, dynamic travel marketplace in the AI era. Glenn explains how leveraging AI and agents such as Priceline’s ‘Penny’ makes travel planning and customer service better, while emphasizing the importance of preserving some human support for some users. He also talks about Booking’s strategy of reinvesting over $700 million into AI and other technologies while still offering stock buybacks and dividends, the durability of their scale and complexities of dealing with a large portfolio physical properties across the world, and why upskilling is so important for employees amid concerns about AI-driven job displacement.
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Chapters:
00:00 – Cold Open
00:05 – Glenn Fogel Introduction
00:41 – Glenn’s Early Career
06:49 – Lessons from the Early Internet
09:24 – Deciding Factors for Exiting
10:56 – Travel Through the Lens of AI
13:30 – Agentic Travel Planning
18:59 – Agents, Token Economics, and ROI
22:46 – Booking’s Capital Investment Philosophy
25:23 – Scale as Durable Asset
29:40 – Purpose and Choosing Wisely
33:18 – AI’s Impact on Jobs
36:38 – Upskilling in the AI Era
38:36 – Public Perception of AI
40:24 – Conclusion How Nuclear Will Unlock Energy Abundance with Valar Atomics Founder Isaiah Taylor
02.07.2026 | 1 Std. 1 Min.While the rest of the nuclear industry still relies on simulations and paper designs, Valar Atomics is busy splitting atoms. In fact, they just powered an NVIDIA Blackwell chip directly with a live nuclear reactor in order to power the world’s first nuclear powered website. Sarah Guo joins Valar Atomics founder and CEO Isaiah Taylor on-site at their reactor site in Utah to talk about how Valar is shifting nuclear energy from the theoretical to the practical by building and perfecting reactors via hardware iteration. Isaiah discusses why the US stopped building nuclear reactors in the 1970s, and how Valar utilized a little-known pathway via the Department of Energy, revived by a Trump administration executive order, to successfully develop and run their advanced reactor. He also shares Valar’s strategy for vertical integration, their venture-backed approach to financing, their giga-site plans, and why he believes cheap, abundant atomic energy has the power to vastly improve the quality of human life.
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Chapters:
00:00 – Cold Open
00:57 – Isaiah Taylor Introduction
01:30 - Valar’s Mission and Origin
04:24 - Why Nuclear Development Stalled
07:18 - Reviving Nuclear through DoE and Executive Order
10:59 - Control Room Tour
16:17 - Misunderstandings About Nuclear
20:07 - Issues with Reliability
22:14 - Nuclear is a Hardware Execution Problem
24:32 - Timeline to Scale Production
26:32 - Introducing Ward 250
30:42 - Speed Through Simplicity
33:33 - AI Drives Nuclear Demand
35:02 - Running a Reactor with NVIDIA Blackwell
36:27 - Valar’s Nuclear Conviction
40:16 - Verticalization as Path to Scale
43:58 - Valar’s Control Skid
48:00 - Venture-Backed Nuclear
50:51 - Gigasite Strategy
53:11 - CEO Tick Rate
55:37 - Abundant Energy and Hyper-Techno Industrialism
1:01:27 – ConclusionReally Big Test-Time Compute in AI Changes Benchmarks, Safety and Research with OpenAI Research Scientist Noam Brown
26.06.2026 | 36 Min.When a new AI model drops, it’s judged based on a static benchmark grid that doesn’t account for how long the model is allowed to think. How then should we measure a model’s true capability? OpenAI research scientist Noam Brown returns to talk with Sarah Guo about his latest essay on why the AI industry’s traditional benchmark grids are broken, and how large-scale test-time compute is fundamentally changing how models are evaluated. Noam explains how, if properly scaffolded, today’s models can reason for weeks or even months on complex tasks. He also discusses real-world implications of test-time compute, from building poker solver bots to disproving legendary math conjectures. Together, they also unpack the large gaps in current AI safety frameworks, explore the bottlenecks for recursive self-improvement, and look ahead at the future of multi-agent collaboration and global knowledge sharing.
Read more: Implications of Large-Scale Test-Time Compute
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Chapters:
00:00 – Cold Open
00:43 – Noam Brown Introduction
01:23 – Why Benchmarks Are Broken
04:19 – Compute Budgets and Projections
05:34 – How Long Should Models Think?
06:47 – Benchmark-Maxxing
08:34 – Using Poker Bots as Evals
11:26 – Safety Evals When Model Capability Scales With Budget
14:41 – Release Cycle vs. Agent Runtime
17:06 – Latent Model Capability
20:59 – Limits on Recursive Self-Improvement
27:09 – Large-Scale Multi-Agent Coordination
29:11 – Competition at the Frontier
31:51 – Breaking the Benchmark Grid Equilibrium
33:29 – Why Benchmarks Should be Evaluated by Cost
36:18 – Conclusion- At 66 years old, instead of heading towards retirement, former Cadence CEO and legendary investor Lip-Bu Tan decided to take on the hardest job in tech: turning Intel around. Elad Gil and Sarah Guo sit down with Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to talk about why he took the job and what “saving” Intel actually looks like. Tan explains how his experience in startup culture informed his decisions to drive Intel’s culture towards faster decisions, focus on customer satisfaction, and engineer accountability. He also discusses his strategy to strengthen Intel’s balance sheet by welcoming investments from Jensen Huang’s Nvidia, Softbank, and the US government. Tan also shares his product roadmap that centers the CPU for agentic AI and inference, the collaboration with Elon Musk on Terafab, his investing framework for semiconductors, and his views on how AI is reshaping design and operations at, as he puts it, a ‘legacy spreadsheet’ tech company.
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Chapters:
00:00 – Cold Open
01:01 – Lip-Bu Tan Introduction
01:24 – Why Lip-Bu Took the Reins at Intel
03:00 – Fixing Culture
04:08 – Intel’s 10-Year Vision
07:57 – Working with Elon Musk on Terafab
09:59 – Shifting Supply Chain for Semiconductors
15:34 – Limits to Scaling and Packaging
18:30 – Physical Limits to Engineering and Design
20:33 – Challenges in Semiconductor Investing
26:29 – Lessons from Cadence
28:02 – Scaling and Investment Decisions
32:03 – Rethinking Teams in AI Era
34:31 – Industrial Policy and Funding
37:25 – What Investors Misunderstand About Intel
41:10 – Where Compute Will Live
44:59 – Conclusion Biohub: The Future of Biology is Open-Source with Co-Founders Mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan, and Head of Science Alex Rives
10.06.2026 | 56 Min.Biohub started with an ambitious goal of curing, preventing, and managing all disease by the end of the century. A decade later, thanks to the convergence of frontier AI and biological data, that goal may have been too conservative. In this episode, Elad Gil and Sarah Guo sit down with Biohub co-founders Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan, alongside Biohub Head of Science Alex Rives. Together, they discuss Biohub’s $500 million virtual biology initiative, which integrates frontier AI with wet-lab work to build predictive world models of cells, proteins, and systems. They also talk about their newly announced open-source engine for digital protein and antibody design, ESMFold2; why Biohub is a nonprofit rather than a venture-backed startup; and how hierarchical simulations will soon allow doctors to treat patients at an individual, mechanistic level.
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Chapters:
00:00 – Cold Open
01:02 - Mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan, and Alex Rives Introduction
01:26 – Why Biohub and Their Mission
08:27 – Integrating Frontier AI and Frontier Biology
09:45 – Micro to Macro Biological Modeling
14:22 – Mechanistic Interpretiability
16:58 – Why Biohub is a Non-Profit
21:41 – Understanding How Biology Works
24:23 – Timeline for Curing All Diseases
26:25 – Translating Research to Patient Impact
28:04 – Launch of ESMFold2
32:13 – Tackling Off-Target Effects and Edge Cases
38:39 – Putting the Tech in Individual Hands
41:06 – Talent at Biohub
44:25 – What’s Next After ESMFold2
46:10 – Connecting ESMFold2 to Agentic Systems
46:51 – The Virtual Cell
49:33 – Defining Success for Biohub
51:52 – Biohub Strategy Update
56:20 – Conclusion
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At this moment of inflection in technology, co-hosts Elad Gil and Sarah Guo talk to the world's leading AI engineers, researchers and founders about the biggest questions: How far away is AGI? What markets are at risk for disruption? How will commerce, culture, and society change? What’s happening in state-of-the-art in research? “No Priors” is your guide to the AI revolution. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com.
Sarah Guo is a startup investor and the founder of Conviction, an investment firm purpose-built to serve intelligent software, or "Software 3.0" companies. She spent nearly a decade incubating and investing at venture firm Greylock Partners.
Elad Gil is a serial entrepreneur and a startup investor. He was co-founder of Color Health, Mixer Labs (which was acquired by Twitter). He has invested in over 40 companies now worth $1B or more each, and is also author of the High Growth Handbook.
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