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• Can You Climb Without Ego? Zen Lessons from Francis Sanzaro

  Hazel sits down with climber, philosopher, and author Francis Sanzaro for a deep dive on the ego—what it is, how it shows up in climbing and life, and how Zen philosophy offers tools to loosen its grip. From ambition, status, and self-worth to the joy (and traps) of goal-setting, Francis draws on decades of climbing experience and insights from Zen and philosophy. Along the way, they explore how the ego shapes who we are and what it means to have a mind that’s truly free. If you’d like help working on your mindset, check out our free mindset workbook and guided reflection. LinkSign up to our thought of the week here! LinkTimestamps00:00:10 - Intro00:02:40 - Who is Francis Sanzaro, and how did philosophy meet climbing?00:06:22 - What is Zen, really—religion or self-inquiry? 00:00:10 - intro00:09:09 - What does a Zen life look like day to day?00:12:46 - What is the ego, and how does it show up in climbing?00:16:54 - Are we constantly trading ego like currency in social spaces?00:21:13 - Is striving for success draining the joy from climbing?00:24:48 - Does the ego drive our extrinsic motivations?00:30:34 - Can we set goals without becoming attached to outcomes? Can ego be a tool for greatness or is it a trap?00:37:38 - Are top athletes good examples—or cautionary tales?00:44:26 - How does the climbing community shape our sense of worth?00:49:21 - Can we protect ourselves from external judgment and status pressure?00:56:02 - What simple practices can help us observe without reacting?01:01:58 - Should we feel pride—or let it go like any other attachment?01:05:51 - Does letting go of ego mean feeling less—or feeling more?01:08:24 - Would humanity still strive for greatness without ego?01:12:27 - How does it feel to climb with ego versus without it? What does it mean to have a mind that’s truly free?

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• AMA with Hazel – Climbing, Mindset, Motherhood & More

  In this special AMA (Ask Me Anything) episode, Hazel answers listener-submitted questions covering everything from climbing training, risk, and performance, to motherhood, mindset, and identity. Tune in for candid, off-the-cuff responses packed with personal stories, vulnerability, and actionable advice. Sign up for our thought of the week here! LinkTime stamps00:00:10 – Intro 00:02:03 – How old were you when you started climbing, and when did you realise you wanted to get good? 00:04:49 – What’s been the hardest thing about becoming a mum? 00:06:45 – What’s your favourite cam size? 00:07:23 – What’s the best way to train for outdoor climbing indoors, especially with new-school setting styles? 00:08:59 – If today were your last day climbing, what would you do tomorrow? 00:10:04 – What’s been the most unexpected thing about motherhood? 00:11:40 – What’s the best thing about climbing since becoming a mum? 00:12:45 – What are you most looking forward to next as a climber? 00:13:54 – How have you dealt with being a female athlete in a male-dominated sport? 00:20:08 – What would present Hazel say to past Hazel—and vice versa? 00:22:49 – Does fear show up for you as feelings or thoughts? 00:25:50 – How do you balance hard onsights with the risk of a fall that could set you back? 00:27:58 – Is there a lack of info on how to keep weight on your feet? 00:28:55 – Did fear of performance loss postpone you having a baby? 00:31:07 – If you could only choose trad, sport, or bouldering, which would it be? 00:32:22 – What changes have you seen in climbing in the last 10 years? 00:34:14 – What was it like sharing a tent with Alex Honnold in Greenland? 00:35:33 – Why does climbing bring you so much joy? 00:37:05 – What’s your favourite crag in Scotland? 00:37:59 – What are your daily and weekly routines like? 00:40:13 – Do you adapt your training based on your menstrual cycle? 00:40:44 – What was your first trad lead like, and how old were you? 00:41:12 – Will you go back to climbing in Avon Gorge? 00:42:56 – What was your biggest fear around pregnancy and postpartum climbing? 00:43:41 – What’s the weirdest Euro climbing thing you’ve heard of? 00:43:56 – Has climbing ever become an obsession or addiction for you? 00:45:15 – What are your views on encouraging more minorities in climbing? 00:46:50 – Have you ever felt pressure to perform in your career? 00:50:23 – How can someone start learning trad climbing? 00:51:21 – How has your relationship with risk changed since the “place less gear” interview? 00:52:24 – What challenges have you faced in your climbing career, and how did you overcome them? 00:54:01 – How do you balance climbing and caring for your child? 00:55:03 – How do you balance self-compassion with pushing yourself? 00:57:18 – How do you mentally handle not climbing when your baby needs you? 00:57:53 – When did you realise you were bolder than most climbers? 00:59:53 – What are the biggest mental challenges of being a professional climber that people don’t see? 01:01:21 – How do you think your mindset will evolve as you get older? 01:01:55 – How can I support a bouldering partner who fears falling and being watched? 01:03:15 – How did you change your training during pregnancy? 01:04:27 – How did you pick your daughter’s name? 01:04:55 – How can I support my kids in climbing while also growing myself? 01:06:21 – What are your biggest fears now, and how are you working through them? 01:08:05 – Who was your biggest mentor, and what did they teach you? 01:08:31 – Which country has the best climbing? 01:08:48 – What mental strategies did you learn from recovering from a shoulder injury? 01:09:37 – What sport are you worst at? 01:09:49 – How can I train if I don’t have a partner? 01:10:25 – Did you have rectus diastasis postpartum, and was it an issue for bouldering? 01:12:07 – Does sponsorship of privileged athletes impact confidence in those from less affluent backgrounds?

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• Big walls and bedtime stories with Leo Houlding

  Hazel sits down with Leo and Jess Houlding and their eldest daughter, Freya. They start with Leo’s legendary adventures, expeditions and first ascents, exploring how his mindset and approach to risk have evolved over the years. Then the focus shifts to family life — from climbing El Cap together to powder skiing in Japan — and what it means to raise resilient, curious, and courageous kids in a world that often prioritises safety above all else.If you’d like help working on your mindset, check out our free mindset workbook and guided reflection. Link Sign up for our thought of the week here! Link00:00:00 – Intro00:05:51 – Why did Leo choose to move back to the UK?00:08:56 – Reflecting on his bold climbing days: how does Leo feel about his past now?00:24:23 – Balancing passion and profession: what motivates Leo today?00:31:17 – What advice would Leo give to people who feel stuck in life?00:35:21 – Leo’s biggest fear for his kids00:38:33 – What have Leo’s kids taught him about fear?00:41:40 – Getting the challenge level right for children00:49:49 – Balancing psychological safety and resilience in parenting00:57:01 – Kids and social media: where do they stand?01:06:40 – What it’s really like having an adventurous family lifestyle01:13:37 – Meet Jess Houlding01:17:25 – Making decisions together as parents: how Leo and Jess navigate it01:24:36 – How has this parenting approach shaped their kids?01:26:48 – What motivated the Houldings’ year-long family trip?01:31:22 – Meet Freya: Freya’s relationship with fear and her favourite part of the trip

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• Performance psychology for climbers: AMA session with Hazel and Angus.

  Hazel and Angus sit down with a cup of tea to answer some of our listeners' questions around performance psychology. We discuss topics like flow, performance anxiety, stress and mindset. If you enjoyed this conversation, Strong Mind is about to re-launch the Performance Hacks course, where Hazel, Angus and their team will take you through a journey to learn more about performance psychology and how it can work for you.If you want to secure yourself a place on Performance Hacks, then sign up here to our waiting list as our courses usually sell out fast.If you’d like help working on your mindset check out our free mindset workbook and guided reflection. Click here Sign-up to our “Thought of the week” here!Blog post by Hazel about trying hard. Click here00:01:51 -  Can performance anxiety be completely removed from climbing?00:05:35 -  Is it beneficial to momentarily step away from climbing to better work on our mindset?00:08:45 -  How can we access flow state on demand?00:19:52 -  How often does Hazel climb in a Flow state?00:21:36 -  How can we set goals and simultaneously have no expectations?00:28:26 -  How can we try hard when allostatic load is high?00:35:36 -  How can mindset be organised and used like tools in a box?00:40:17 -  Are there quick ways to achieve flow?00:41:34 -  As a coach or instructor, how do you manage the social pressure of climbing in front of students or peers? 00:51:26 -  Performance Hacks course 

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• Rethinking Masculinity In The Outdoors: Resilience, Vulnerability, Emotional Strength and Fatherhood

  WARNING, this podcast mentions suicide and mental health. What does it mean to be a man in 2025 — especially in the world of climbing, adventure, and risk? In this episode, we dive into masculinity, vulnerability, emotions, mental health and fatherhood with Aldo Kane and Matt Pycroft. Aldo is a former Royal Marine, adventurer, TV presenter and author. Matt is a climber, adventure filmmaker and podcast host. From redefining strength to raising kids, this is an honest look at what masculinity means today and what we’re striving for when it comes to men’s health. If you are having a hard time, you can get help. findahelpline.com will direct you to your country's helpline.If you’d like help working on your mindset check out our free mindset workbook and guided reflection. Link Don't forget to sign up to our "Thought of the week". LinkTimestamps00:00:00 – Intro: why this conversation matters00:05:43 – Aldo & Matt on what masculinity means today00:11:40 – Can we talk about masculinity without tearing it down?00:22:19 – Men and mental health: what’s really going on?00:36:39 – Male-dominated spaces: problem or part of the solution?00:44:00 – What do healthy men’s spaces actually look like?00:50:41 – How the media frames modern masculinity00:57:47 – Struggling as a man? Here’s what might help01:11:25 – The role of women: support, challenge, or both?01:19:10 – Are all men bad? And is chivalry just polite misogyny?

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