The Peterman Pod

Ryan Olson grew from mid-level engineer (IC4) to a principal engineer (IC8) at Instagram through a series of famous projects. The most notable was when he was the lead iOS developer that built Instagram Stories. We discuss his career journey and learnings.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/instagram-principal-eng-ic8-on-building
• Spotify: Episode link from Spotify after scheduling
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/gpVETZnY9Y0
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:31 - Failing his FB interview
00:03:27 - Interning /w future billionaires
00:14:08 - Interview nerves tip
00:16:37 - Early Instagram experiences
00:34:08 - Building Instagram Stories
00:45:03 - 1 promo per half to Staff (IC6)
00:49:51 - Senior staff promo project (IC7)
00:57:37 - IG labs & his principal promo (IC8)
01:08:19 - Starting Retro and leaving big tech
01:21:33 - Small teams hypothetical
01:25:17 - Examples of talented individuals
01:31:16 - Advice to his younger self
01:34:45 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Retro (his company): https://retro.app/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanolsonk/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanolsonk
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanolsonk/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanolsonk

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

In this episode, I talked to "Asian Dad Energy" an anonymous big techie who was laid off after 25 years in the industry. We discussed his layoffs experience, his early career in engineering consulting, and the realities of big tech compensation.

🔸 My keyboard project link: https://read.compose.llc/p/our-keyboard-design-reveal

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/8bs6KmJX4_g
• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ApCuf04MXv0nBRqKNLyiQ?si=bko-M46xQM2FHhTG6Vcy6Q
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/laid-off-from-big-tech-after-25-years

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:41 - His layoff story
00:07:02 - Why he expects more layoffs
00:09:42 - Tech consulting before big tech
00:19:25 - Consultants shipping bad code?
00:26:57 - Why do people dislike consultants?
00:30:55 - Big tech compensation
00:40:27 - When age impacted his flexibility
00:42:04 - Why YouTube
00:46:46 - Speaking advice for engineers
00:49:09 - Advice for younger self
00:49:35 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗶𝗺:

• https://www.youtube.com/@AsianDadEnergy

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

In this episode, I talked to Nimit Sohoni, a Stanford PhD and AI Researcher at Cartesia who previously worked as a quant at Citadel. We discussed the differences between AI research and quant careers, including work-life balance and the value of a PhD in these fields. Nimit also shared what he's currently working on and offered advice for those looking to transition into AI research.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/_jECS37M3dQ
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/stanford-phd-ai-researcher-and-quant

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:45 - Do you need a PhD?
00:06:25 - Research taste and finding problems
00:09:04 - Why become a quant
00:12:01 - What quants do
00:14:53 - How quants and SWEs collaborate
00:16:29 - Quant vs tech culture
00:26:39 - Quant firm tier list
00:27:56 - Quant insider trading and perf culture
00:30:53 - Going back to AI research
00:35:08 - Who the top competitors are in voice AI
00:39:22 - AI startups vs big labs
00:42:08 - State space models vs transformers
00:49:33 - AI labs: research or product?
00:52:38 - Advice for SWEs who want to try AI research
00:56:48 - Advice for younger self
00:57:49 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗡𝗶𝗺𝗶𝘁:

• Twitter/X: https://x.com/nimit_sohoni
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nimit-sohoni-68998854/
• Cartesia: https://cartesia.ai/sonic

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

In this episode, I talked to Igor, a senior staff engineer who has worked at Meta, Google, and Cruise. We discussed his experience of wanting a demotion at Meta and the challenges he faced in that process.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/i1iBweuOQI4
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/meta-senior-staff-ic7-engs-honest

𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:

• Igor's post: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7401415295409700864/

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:37 - Why he wanted a demotion
00:07:32 - Why Senior Staff at Meta was different
00:16:01 - Meta vs Google culture
00:19:09 - Downleveling at Google
00:23:17 - Why he's willing to be transparent
00:25:11 - Best quality of life eng level
00:30:42 - Senior Staff promo at Google
00:42:27 - Mentorship stories
00:43:11 - Biggest career regret
00:46:46 - Advice for younger self
00:49:06 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗜𝗴𝗼𝗿:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/igorts/
• ML basics youtube videos he made: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVcptlT8D7DgN5FtLMFUdHb5pJXW1g0YL

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Laurent Charignon was a Staff engineer at Stripe, Airbnb, and Instagram with some experience in management as well. We discussed the unspoken rules you learn as a manager, how he transitioned, what good mentorship looks like, and advice for senior engineers who are stuck looking to grow to Staff.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/airbnb-staff-eng-on-how-to-not-get
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/cgQY_1Uz2b8
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:44 - Joining Airbnb and transitioning to EM
00:18:29 - Untold rules of calibrations
00:23:50 - How to dispute bureaucracy
00:29:54 - Airbnb culture
00:31:36 - Leaving Airbnb for Meta
00:35:56 - Uber TL at Stripe
00:42:52 - How to scale yourself
00:45:22 - What people get wrong in coaching
00:52:58 - Why people get stuck at Senior eng
00:57:24 - Most career impacting book
00:58:39 - Advice for younger self
01:00:27 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝗮𝘂𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurentcharignon/
• Personal Website: https://blog.laurentcharignon.com/
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/lc2817

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman