The Gifts of Trauma

Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes & Kevin Young. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.
If grief is the energy generated by loss, what happens to a people whose grief has been stolen for generations, and what becomes possible when we grieve our way home? In this episode, Rosemary Wanganeen, a Kaurna, Wirungu, and Koogatha Aboriginal woman and Australia's only griefologist, presents one of the most provocative perspectives explored in this series. She traces the suppression of grief and the ensuing psychopathic violence of Australia's colonizers/invaders to a declaration by Plato in 388 BC—the toxic legacy of which continues to fuel the behavior of spirit-absent humans.
She also explains how:
- Suppressed grief causes the spirit to separate from the body
- A spirit-absent human can commit atrocities
- The invading colonizers deliberately dismantled 60,000 years of sacred Aboriginal culture
- Griefology offers a path out of the unresolved grief that traps colonized peoples
- Her own spirit came home after five years of intuitive healing
Rosemary's story—which takes her from a women's shelter in Sydney (where she encountered an ancestral grandmother) through founding the Healing Centre for Griefology to her current work—is a living testament to what becomes possible when we grieve our way back home to ourselves.
About Rosemary Wanganeen 
Clinical Griefologist
Australia's only Griefologist, Rosemary not only pioneered this revolutionary field, but founded and leads The Healing Centre for Griefology, established in 1993 in response to her personal experiences as part of the Stolen Generation.
Her work provides an evidence-based approach to transforming Aboriginal disadvantage into Aboriginal prosperity, shifting the conversation to healing, sustainability, and self-determination. Also a former research officer for the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, Rosemary's search for a deeper understanding of personal and collective loss produced her groundbreaking "Seven Phases" model which redefines grief—not as something to be "closed" but as a natural, ongoing process to be integrated into life. Her contributions have led to her recognition in academia, and she is currently a Master of Philosophy candidate at the University of Adelaide.
As a keynote speaker, educator, trainer, program designer, and peer-reviewed author, Rosemary's work across multiple sectors demonstrates the far-reaching consequences of unaddressed grief in everyday life, including death and dying. After spending over 30 years supporting Aboriginal health, welfare, and social justice, she has dedicated her career to transforming how individuals, communities, and organisations understand and integrate loss and grief. 
A proud South Australian Aboriginal woman of the Kaurna, Wirungu, and Koogatha nations, Rosemary's work has influenced mental health policies, leadership training, and community well-being programs, positioning her as a thought-provoking leader in holistic grief education.


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Resources:
Websites:
Griefology Website
Related Links:
Good Grief Grave Matters Podcast (2024)
Discovering Griefology Video (2023)
Healing the Soul of Australia Podcast (2023)
Loss, Grief and Forgiveness Podcast (2023)
The Seven Phases to Integrating Loss and Grief Article
Books:
In the Absence of the Ordinary (2025)
Working Together (2024)
Living Legacies of Social Injustice (2023)
How to Age Against the Machine (2023)
The Wild Edge of Sorrow (2015)
Why Do Christians Find It Hard to Grieve? (1997)
Quotes:
"Grief is not only illogical, but it's a weakness."  - Plato, 388 BC
"You are as sick as your secrets are deep." - Unknown
"The essence of trauma, at its purest level, is disconnect from the self." - Gabor Maté
"I had to empty my physical body of all that grief energy for my spirit to feel safe enough to come home. And between my physical body and my spirit, we've been able to sustain that connection. It's sustained through griefology, one can't undo that. You can't go back to harming another human being because you become conscious." - Rosemary Wanganeen
"Human beings have to wait for their rock bottom to say, I can't do this anymore, enough is enough. And then tap into, how do I get myself out of this now?"  - Rosemary Wanganeen
Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosemary-kudnarto-wanganeen/
Facebook: Healing Centre for Griefology
Instagram: @lossandgrief

Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. 
If you've ever grieved an unrecognized loss, please join us to explore Disenfranchised Grief, the term Dr Doka coined over 35 years ago to describe the grief that rises when a loss isn't openly recognized, publicly mourned, or socially supported, and why so many of us—unkowingly—carry this form of grief. 
Drawing on his 50 years in the field, Dr Doka, along with Maria and Ellie who share their lived experiences of disenfranchised grief, unpack:
- How grief (the energy generated by a significant loss) can show up emotionally,  physically, cognitively, behaviorally and spiritually
- The five components of disenfranchised grief
- Why we don't "detach" from those we've lost (and why that's healthy)
- How judging others' grieving styles can tear relationships apart
- Why not acknowledging losses can freeze grief in our bodies for decades
- How grief can lead to growth, new insights, strengths, and a understandings of life & spirituality.
Compassionate Inquiry colleagues Maria and Ellie bring personal dimensions to this conversation, sharing their own experiences of reproductive loss—the grief that rarely gets a funeral, a casserole, or even a conversation. If you've ever been told to move on from something you haven't been able to fully grieve, this episode offers perspectives and insights you may find helpful.
About Kenneth J. Doka, PhD, MDiv
Senior Vice President of Grief Programs
at Hospice Foundation of America (HFA) 
The recipient of the 2019 Lifetime Achievement Award from the Association of Death Education and Counseling (ADEC), Doka is also professor emeritus, at the Graduate School of The College of New Rochelle. A prolific author and editor, he serves as editor of HFA's Living with Grief® book series, its Journeys newsletter, and numerous other books and publications. He has been a panelist on HFA's Living with Grief® program for 30 years. Doka is a past president of ADEC, a former board member of the International Work Group on Death, Dying and Bereavement, and an Advisory Board member to the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors (TAPS). He is the recipient of The International Work Group on Death, Dying, and Bereavement's prestigious Herman Feifel Award and ADEC's Award for Outstanding Contributions in the Field of Death Education. In 2006, he was grandfathered in as a Mental Health Counselor under New York's first state licensure of counselors. Doka is an ordained Lutheran minister.
About Maria de los Angeles Estrada
Licensed RN, Compassionate Inquiry® Practitioner, Trauma Recovery & Life Coach
A Licensed Registered Nurse in New York state, María has 15 years of combined pediatric and perinatal care experience, as a birth assistant to midwives assisting mothers delivering at the Brooklyn Birthing Center, as well as at home births. She currently dedicates herself to her online private practice as a Trauma Recovery Coach, Life Coach, and Compassionate Inquiry (CI) Practitioner and CI Circle leader. Maria also co-facilitates two Focus Groups for the Spanish CI community: Accompanying Grief Processes with CI and Compassionate Parenting, and is an intern in the CI Portal training.
Born and raised in Uruguay, South America, Maria moved to the United States when she was 18 to rebuild her relationship with her father, who migrated when she was 10. Today the mother of three and grandmother of four, she has been happily remarried for 31 years. 
About Ellie Davis
Chi Nei Tsang Practitioner and Resilience Coach
Ellie has been walking with others on their healing road since becoming a massage​ therapist in 1993. In 2008 she expanded into Chi​ Nei Tsang (a Taoist hands on healing modality which focuses on releasing stress from the​ vital organs) which led her to Compassionate Inquiry in 2023, and David Kessler's Grief​ Educator training in 2025. 
Having traveled the world helping people access the​ healing that naturally resides in the body, Ellle  recently found her way back to her own​ roots in Iowa, an unexpected move that facilitated healing her past.  She also began standing up for women's reproductive freedom, addressing the Iowa State legislature on the effect of its harsh anti-choice laws. Since her own early history as a "pro-lifer" was upended in 1996, her work with her own grief paved the way to creating​ abortion grief groups for people who made that choice and the constellations around them.
 
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Resources:
Websites:
Dr Doka's Professional Website
Maria's CI Professional Profile:
Ellie's Professional Website
Related Links:
Disenfranchised Grief Model 
Grief Support Groups
Books:
Dr Doka's Publication Library
Death & Dying, Life & Living 9th Edition (2025)
Disenfranchised Grief: Ministry That Breaks the Silence (2025)
Grieving Beyond Gender. With Terry L Martin (2025)
When We Die (2020)
Grief Counseling and Grief Therapy, by J William Worden (2018)
Grief Is a Journey: Finding Your Path Through Loss (2016)
Disenfranchised Grief: New Directions, Challenges, and Strategies for Practice (2002)
Articles
Ellie's Blog
Quotes:
"intuitive grievers experience grief as waves of emotion. Instrumental grievers use a more problem focused way of coping.  You can deal with grief dysfunctionally or functionally, but neither [grieving style] is dysfunctional by nature. There's nothing wrong with intellectualizing if it works."
- Dr Kenneth Doka
"...acknowledge loss in your life, the many losses we have, including the non death losses. But acknowledge life even with grief. There's lots to live for, lots to learn, lots to know." - Dr Kenneth Doka
"Grief also affects us physically. We can have aches and pains. Cognitively, we can be unfocused, confused. Spiritually, it can distress our beliefs and, or sometimes empower our beliefs. And it affects our behavior. Some of us avoid reminders of the deceased, some of us seek them."
Freud always talked about the loved, hated one. And it reminds us that any significant relationship carries a certain amount of ambivalence. Part of grief is acknowledging that ambivalence when it exists.
 
Social Media:
Maria's Instagram: @maria.delos.angeles_life_coach
Ellie's Instagram: Bloomingbeing.ellie
Dr Doka's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000279231883
Maria's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/maria.estrada.5811
Ellie's Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/ellie.davis.355

Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.
This gentle conversation launches a new series exploring death, loss and grief—experiences we all face yet are rarely taught to navigate. Our guests debunk grief 'myths', as it doesn't follow "5 Stages," we can't "pre-grieve" and being told to "be brave" can trap grief in our body for decades. 
They also offer practical suggestions for supporting those who are grieving, and explain:
- How grief can manifest in physical, emotional and mental issues
- Why talking about the deceased is essential for the living
- How repressed grief can lead to the development of "subpersonalities"
- How our lost grieving rituals actually supported the grieving process
Pam shares the sacred experience of sitting with her mother through her final night.  Manisha describes how her sister's death at 13 created a 38-year shutdown—until a Compassionate Inquiry training dyad and breathwork session finally allowed her body to release what it had been holding. 
About Pam Sommer, Compassionate Inquiry® Practitioner & Facilitator, EFT, RMT
A dedicated wellness practitioner, Pam is also an EFT Practitioner, and a Registered Massage Therapist trained as a Death Doula. Pam's journey into wellness began with experiences that sparked a deep commitment to healing and self-discovery. Her approach is rooted in empathy, understanding a genuine desire to support others on their path to well-being, and a passion for helping them live peaceful, fulfilling lives. Together with her clients Pam creates safe, nurturing spaces for healing. 
Personally, Pam finds joy in simple things—exploring nature through camping and hiking, staying grounded through yoga and exercise. She lives on an off-grid farm with her partner and children, surrounded by a lively crew of freeloading animals who bring joy (and a bit of chaos) to their lives.
Whether she's working with clients or spending time with her family, Pam strives to live authentically and help others do the same.

About Manisha Billimoria, 
Compassionate Inquiry® Practitioner,
Biology of Trauma Facilitator
A dedicated mental health counsellor Manisha specialises in trauma therapy and functional medicine. Her comprehensive training, which includes art therapy, REBT, EMDR, and SST, provides a supportive foundation for clients addressing diverse mental health concerns. 
Committed to helping individuals overcome their challenges, build resilience, and embark on journeys of healing and self-discovery, Manisha's approach to mental health care is marked by her empathy, authenticity, and a genuine commitment to her clients' well-being. She provides a safe, supportive, nurturing environment that invites individuals to explore their emotions, confront their challenges, develop resilience and listen to the wisdom of their bodies. 
Born in India, after 30 years in Sri Lanka, Manisha considers it 'home.' The organization she founded and leads, Umbartha, a Marathi word that means 'threshold.' Its mission is to support individuals on their journey towards alignment, authenticity and healing. 
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If you've been listening to our podcast and are curious about the Compassionate Inquiry®  approach developed by Doctor Gabor Maté and Sat Dharam Kaur, consider joining the Professional Training Program. It's open to all healing professionals, including naturopaths, physicians, body workers, coaches, and therapists. In addition to learning how to use compassion to support your clients in their most vulnerable moments with greater empathy and authenticity, you'll also deepen your own internal process. If you're interested, click this link to learn more.

Your journey with Compassionate Inquiry® matters. Your work in the world matters. If you have a story to share about bringing Compassionate Inquiry into the world, we'd like to amplify your voice. Spotlight episodes are full length Gifts of Trauma podcast interviews offered exclusively to CI community members. You'll not only share your story with 55,000 healing professionals across all platforms, you'll receive a pre-interview strategy session plus three promotional video clips. We're offering only 10 Spotlight episodes per year and production realities require a financial contribution. Follow the links to access full details and express your interest. Spotlight Episodes   |   Sponsorships
 
 
Resources:

Websites:
Manisha's Professional Website
Maisha's Compassionate Inquiry Profile
Pam's Professional Website
Pam's Compassionate Inquiry Profile
Related links:
The Varsha Retreat, with Sat Dharam Kaur
Compassionate Inquiry® Training
Death Doula Training
Biology of Trauma Training
Articles:
Picking Up The Dropped Stitch
Trusting in Self, Trusting in Life
Books:
Pam's Essential Reading
Podcast:
Pam's First Gifts of Trauma Podcast Interview
Quotes:
"Wipe those tears away. That's not going to help anybody. They can help the person who's shedding the tears. It's so healing to just allow, otherwise that grief, that sadness gets bottled up inside."
– Pam Sommer
"When grief is suppressed, it doesn't disappear. It finds another way to speak, often through the body. The question is not how to get over grief, but how to stay present with it without abandoning ourselves"
- Manisha Billimoria
"There's no right way to grieve. If we can honor grief as a legitimate emotion, as much as sadness and anger and shame, we can turn this experience into growth, expansion and healing as opposed to [something that's] contributing to our pain." - Pam Sommer
"Grief never leaves, but neither does love. They walk together now, hand in hand, teaching you how to live with an absence that is always a presence."  - Jamie Anderson
"It's all the unexpressed love, the grief that will remain with us until we pass, because we never get enough time with each other." - Andrew Garfield
Social Media:
Pam's Instagram 
Pam's Facebook
Manisha's Instagram
Manisha's Facebook
Manisha's LinkedIn

Hosted by Kevin Young and J'aime Rothbard. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.
In the second half of this intimate conversation, the hosts quick-response questions reveal the multifaceted wholeness Rosemary brings to Magnetic Presence Marketing—a radical new marketing approach modeled on Gabor Maté's own magnetism, presence, humility, vulnerability and honesty. 
Together, the hosts and guest explore:
- Reframing "Unique Selling Point" as "Unique Sovereign Presence"
- Why withholding our Unique Sovereign Presence actually does a disservice to others
- How integrating our 'Lego' can take us from seeming scattered to 'feeling free'
- Why it's far too costly to abandon ourselves in our "pursuit of success"  
Rosemary concludes this interview by sharing the vision that inspired her to make Magnetic Presence Marketing into a training program. To address the dilemma of healers whose 'marketing trauma' stops them from promoting their work, so they can't be 'found' by the people they trained to serve. The remedy? A 'clean' marketing approach that creates safety, mirrors healers values and honors autonomy
About Rosemary Davies-Janes
Trauma Therapist, Podcast Manager/Host, Magnetic Presence Marketing Creator 
For nearly 30 years, Rosemary has worked at the intersection of authenticity, psychology, and healing. After two decades in corporate marketing leadership, she founded MIBOSO® to support the holistic integration of mind, body, and soul—through authentic branding, ethical marketing, and natural healing practices.
She began podcasting in 2002, producing 150+ episodes with guests including Byron Katie, James Redfield, Gary Zukav, David Whyte, Harville Hendrix and Helen LaKelly Hunt. Today Rosemary manages and hosts Compassionate Inquiry's The Gifts of Trauma Podcast. 
In 2021, The Wisdom of Trauma movie led her to pursue intensive trauma-therapy training in Compassionate Inquiry®, Integrative Somatic Trauma Therapy and Internal Family Systems. Rosemary now specializes in complex trauma work with clients globally, particularly those navigating cultural displacement, intergenerational trauma, and early life adaptations.
Inspired by Dr Gabor Maté's own unique magnetic presence, Rosemary's blend of marketing expertise and trauma-informed psychology led her to create Magnetic Presence Marketing. This approach, launched in 2025, teaches heart-centered professionals to market their work authentically, without manipulation.
Born in Canada and raised across three continents, Rosemary now lives in Costa Rica, where she continues her work supporting people in integrating their internal authenticity with their external expression.
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Your journey with Compassionate Inquiry® matters. Your work in the world matters. If you have a story to share about bringing compassionate inquiry into the world, we'd like to amplify your voice. Spotlight episodes are full length Gifts of Trauma podcast interviews offered exclusively to CI community members. You'll not only share your story with 55,000 healing professionals across all platforms, you'll receive a pre interview strategy session plus three promotional video clips. We're offering only 10 Spotlight episodes per year and production realities require a financial contribution. Follow these links to access full details and express your interest. Spotlight Guest  |  Sponsorship
Resources
Websites:
Professional Website
Magnetic Presence Marketing
Related Links:
The Gifts of Trauma Podcast
Compassionate Inquiry® Training
Internal Family Systems Training (IFS)
Relational Life Therapy Training (RLT)
Podcasts:
Transforming Survival into Safety & Presence, with Alison Creech
Video:
Unique Sovereign Presence Mediation
Quotes:
"...we've got this army of healers forming. What if they can't get past this marketing block and can't be found by the people they're trained to serve? That was when it came to me. We've got to radically shift the way we market." - Rosemary Davies-Janes

Hosted by Kevin Young and J'aime Rothbard. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. 
What if your resistance to self-marketing is actually a trauma block? This week, our very own Gifts of Trauma co-host Rosemary Davies-Janes shares her journey from corporate marketing exec to authenticity recovery coach to Magnetic Presence Marketing creator. Hosts Kevin and J'aime dive into how she helps heart-centered professionals heal their 'marketing trauma,' shed their masks and attract ideal, right-fit clients
Together they reflect on:
- Why marketing blocks are almost always trauma blocks in disguise
- How holding 7 different roles can make complete sense when you find your through-line
- The role of Compassionate Inquiry® and why we need to do our inner work first
- Why Gabor Maté's magnetic presence inspired an entirely new approach to marketing
In this intimate conversation, Rosemary also explains why helping people access their authenticity is her driving passion, what it means to be a multipotentialite, why living a mythic life requires courage and grit, and how she learned that a wild spirit and authentic love can go hand in hand.
About Rosemary Davies-Janes
Trauma Therapist, Podcast Manager/Host, Magnetic Presence Marketing Creator 
For nearly 30 years, Rosemary has worked at the intersection of authenticity, psychology, and healing. After two decades in corporate marketing leadership, she founded MIBOSO® to support the holistic integration of mind, body, and soul—through authentic branding, ethical marketing, and natural healing practices.
She began podcasting in 2002, producing 150+ episodes with guests including Byron Katie, James Redfield, Gary Zukav, David Whyte, Harville Hendrix and Helen LaKelly Hunt. Today Rosemary manages and hosts Compassionate Inquiry's The Gifts of Trauma Podcast. 
In 2021, The Wisdom of Trauma movie led her to pursue intensive trauma-therapy training in Compassionate Inquiry®, Integrative Somatic Trauma Therapy and Internal Family Systems. Rosemary now specializes in complex trauma work with clients globally, particularly those navigating cultural displacement, intergenerational trauma, and early life adaptations.
Inspired by Dr Gabor Maté's own unique magnetic presence, Rosemary's blend of marketing expertise and trauma-informed psychology led her to create Magnetic Presence Marketing. This approach, launched in 2025, teaches heart-centered professionals to market their work authentically, without manipulation.
Born in Canada and raised across three continents, Rosemary now lives in Costa Rica, where she continues her work supporting people in integrating their internal authenticity with their external expression.
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Your journey with Compassionate Inquiry® matters. Your work in the world matters. If you have a story to share about bringing compassionate inquiry into the world, we'd like to amplify your voice. Spotlight episodes are full length Gifts of Trauma podcast interviews offered exclusively to CI community members. You'll not only share your story with 55,000 healing professionals across all platforms, you'll receive a pre interview strategy session plus three promotional video clips. We're offering only 10 Spotlight episodes per year and production realities require a financial contribution. Follow these links  to access full details and express your interest. Spotlight Guest Sponsorship
Resources
Websites:
Professional Website
Related Links:
Magnetic Presence Marketing
The Gifts of Trauma Podcast
Compassionate Inquiry® Training
Integrative Somatic Therapy Training 
Internal Family Systems Training (IFS)
Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT)
Psychometric Profiles: 
Myers Briggs
DISC
Strengths Finder
Enneagram
The Kolbe A Index
360 Degree Assessment
Book:
The Naughtiest Girl in the School
Podcasts:
Navigating Adoption's Emotional Turbulence
Quotes:
"A brand is a living entity—and it is enriched or undermined cumulatively over time, the product of a thousand small gestures." - Michael D. Eisner
"A lot of times people tell me they share things they've never shared with another human before, things that might be deeply linked to shame or some early trauma that they haven't yet named. People have mirrored back to me, is, it's because I bring my authenticity." - Rosemary Davies-Janes
" …that idea of masking and false safety is not something that comes with being a Multipotentialite and living across all these jobs and following your heart. There's a courage in there as well, I would presume, to living like that." - Kevin Young
"There's a practice we go through in Magnetic Presence Marketing. Check with your head brain, your heart brain, your gut brain. Check with your five senses. Check with your intuition, check with your alignment with your spiritual connection, whether that's cosmological or collective or whatever it might be." - Rosemary Davies-Janes
"As within, so without, as above, so below."- Hermes Trismegistus
"Follow your heart and the universe will conspire to help." - Juliano Innocente
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