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This episode is sponsored by Your360 AI. Get 10% off through January 2026 at https://Your360.ai with code: INSIDE. Ben Goertzel, founder and CEO of SingularityNET, joins us to argue for an open path to AGI. We unpack what “open source” should include beyond code, how access to training data, pipelines, and compute shapes who can actually participate, and why “open weights” can still fall short. We also ask who needs convincing, what incentives could move the market, and how decentralized infrastructure fits into his vision for building advanced AI outside a handful of mega labs. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 2:13 - How the definition of AGI has shifted over time, and why the term has become distorted 7:58 - The “thousand narrow AIs” future, and who builds the next specialized system 12:40 - Revisiting Goertzel’s past AGI timeline predictions, what changed by late 2025, and is 2029 still feasible for AGI? 18:42 - Whether today’s AI investment is flowing to the right bets (LLMs vs world models and beyond) 25:43 - Why Goertzel argues LLMs cannot reach AGI, and what evidence could change his mind 31:44 - What it would take to build a truly open-source path to AGI 37:18 - Open weights vs real openness: Goertzel’s take on what’s missing from current releases 43:56 - Who needs to be convinced for open AI to succeed, and how that persuasion happens 50:20 - Advice for college students preparing for an AI-shaped career landscape Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is sponsored by Your360 AI. Get 10% off through January 2026 at https://Your360.ai with code: INSIDE. Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack OpenAI's rapid GPT-5.2 release and Image 1.5 upgrade amid its Code Red push, contrasted by Google's faster Gemini 3 Flash challenging benchmarks in reasoning and speed. Nvidia's Slurm acquisition and Nemotron 3 open models are explored for their role in agentic AI, while Disney's $1 billion OpenAI deal licensing Sora IP is weighed against its Google cease-and-desist. President Trump's executive order centralizing AI regulation federally is analyzed for tensions with state protections. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. Chapters: 00:00 - Podcast begins 3:41 - Jeff on AI & APIs for news for NiemanLab 11:33 - Disney wants you to AI-generate yourself into your favorite Marvel movie 14:27 - Disney’s OpenAI deal is exclusive for just one year — then it’s open season 15:23 - Google Removes AI Videos of Disney Characters After Cease and Desist Letter 21:05 - OpenAI Launches GPT-5.2 as It Navigates ‘Code Red’ 26:21 - OpenAI Just Dropped a New AI Image Model in ChatGPT to Rival Google's Nano Banana 30:20 - Google announces Gemini 3 Flash with Pro-level performance, rolling out now 33:03 - Nvidia bulks up open source offerings with an acquisition and new open AI models 33:44 - Nvidia Becomes a Major Model Maker With Nemotron 3 38:26 - Trump signs executive order blocking states from enforcing their own regulations around AI 39:13 - Masnick: Trump Pretends To Block State AI Laws; Media Pretends That’s Legal 45:35 - A visual editor for the Cursor Browser 49:47 - Google testing Disco browser 52:10 - I Tried Google Maps' New Gemini Feature, and It Was a Surprisingly Helpful AI Assistant 53:31 - Google Translate brings real-time speech translations to any headphones 1:03:03 - Pew: Teen use of chatbots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Howell recommends the Smart Talks with IBM podcast where business leaders, technologists and creatives explore how AI and other innovations are transforming industries. This episode is sponsored by Smart Talks with IBM. Check it out here: https://apple.co/43yY2xd.

Jason Howell recommends the Smart Talks with IBM podcast where business leaders, technologists and creatives explore how AI and other innovations are transforming industries. This episode is sponsored by Smart Talks with IBM. Check it out here: https://apple.co/43yY2xd.

This episode is sponsored by Your360 AI. Get 10% off through January 2026 at https://Your360.ai with code: INSIDE. Nick Fox is the SVP of Knowledge and Information at Google, overseeing Search, Ads, and Commerce. He returns to the AI Inside podcast seven months after our Google I/O conversation when he declared "the web is thriving." In this follow-up, we press Fox on the publisher traffic debate, whether Google will ever embrace a licensing model for news, and why the Personal Context feature announced at I/O is still delayed. We also cover AI Mode's growth to 75 million daily users, why emerging markets are adopting it faster than expected, and what Google has learned about changing search behavior. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 00:00:00 - Podcast begins 00:00:41 - Introducing Nick Fox, Google's SVP of Knowledge and Information 00:03:29 - Revisiting "The Web Is Thriving" Claim Seven Months Later 00:05:09 - Publisher Traffic Concerns and Trust in Google's Data 00:08:30 - Preferred Sources: New Feature to Boost Publisher Visibility 00:09:58 - AI Links vs. Traditional Blue Links: Quality and Purpose 00:12:57 - Jeff's Case for News APIs: Should Publishers Embrace AI? 00:16:01 - Google's Response to the News API Proposal 00:17:31 - 3,000+ Publisher Partnerships and the Traffic-First Model 00:21:53 - Advice for Publishers Wanting to Rank in AI Search 00:24:07 - AI Mode Adoption: What Seven Months of User Data Reveals 00:27:07 - Longer Queries, Deeper Exploration: How Users Are Changing 00:29:06 - Global Rollout Insights: US, India, Brazil, and Emerging Markets 00:29:28 - The Learning Curve: Why AI Search Takes Months to Adopt 00:31:11 - Younger Users Leading AI Mode Adoption 00:31:59 - "Catch Me Up" Feature: Embedding AI in New Places 00:34:17 - AI Mode Everywhere: Chrome, Workspace, and Jeff's Chromebook Plea 00:37:50 - Personal Context Update: What's Delaying the Gmail/Drive Integration 00:40:07 - Gemini 3 Pro in Search: Generative UIs and Intelligent Routing 00:43:23 - Google's AI Brand Strategy: Search, Gemini App, and Beyond 00:46:23 - If You Were Starting a Content Business Today 00:48:16 - Thank you to Nick Fox for joining the AI Inside podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices