Soaring Child: Thriving with ADHD

• 188: Homeschooling ADHD Kids: How to Build Education That Fits with Leslee Dirnberger

  Let's be honest,  public school wasn't designed for kids with ADHD. Too often, these kids are labeled, misunderstood, and pushed into systems that don't fit how their brains learn best. But what if the problem isn't your child, but the system itself? In this episode of The Soaring Child Podcast, host Dana Kay, ADHD health practitioner and founder of the ADHD Thrive Method for Kids speaks with Leslie Dernberger, founder of Aspire Education, mom of four, and one of the nation's leading experts in K–12 education for neurodiverse learners. Drawing on her legal background and over a decade of experience helping families, Leslie unpacks why traditional schooling often fails ADHD kids and what parents can do about it. From understanding homeschool laws and navigating deschooling, to structuring the day and busting common misconceptions, this episode is filled with practical guidance and encouragement. Whether you're curious about homeschooling, exploring hybrid options, or just want to better support your child's learning, this conversation will give you hope and actionable tools. Links Mentioned in the Show:▶ Aspire Education: https://www.aspireeducation.us/ ▶ Homeschool Legal Defense Association (HSLDA): https://hslda.org Key Takeaways: [00:00] Public school isn't built for many ADHD learners andwhy fit-the-mold systems backfire. [02:37] Meet Leslie Dirnberger (Aspire Education): mom of four, homeschool veteran, legal background, supports thousands of families. [04:23] The "catalyst event": what finally pushes parents to seek alternatives. [06:03] Spotting the signal: "the spark is gone" and nothing at school is fixing it. [07:16] First steps legally: understand your state's rules; public vs. private education; where homeschooling fits. [10:05] Deschooling 101: reset the parent first; museum/nature learning to reconnect. [13:38] Foundation step: define "a good education" as a family; ask kids what learning should look like. [15:24] Myth-busting socialization: why homeschoolers often get better real-world social practice. [18:30] Colleges love homeschoolers: time management, self-advocacy, executive function. [26:27] Standardized tests miss the mark, especially for ADHD,  focus on mastery instead. Memorable Moments: "The truth is, your child doesn't need to be fixed. They need an education that actually fits their brain." "There is a catalyst event that has occurred that creates a situation that the parents go, wait a second, let's take a step back here." "The spark has gone out, the light has gone out of their eyes and the parents know something's wrong." "The hardest part of homeschooling? Looking myself in the mirror and challenging my own beliefs." "What does a good education look like for your family and for your children?" "Nothing could be further from the truth — homeschoolers are often better socialized." "Colleges love homeschoolers because they know how to manage their time and advocate for themselves." "Accreditation is a game. It is absolutely garbage. It doesn't mean a thing." "Everything is geared towards standardized testing in government schools. And that's why they're in a box and they ram it through, which is terrible for ADHD kids." "Your children can own their own education and advocate for themselves at school." Dana Kay Resources: 🔗WEBSITES: ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/ ▶ https://dana-kay.com/ 👋SOCIALS: ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ADHDThriveInstitute/ ▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADHDThriveInstitute ▶ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adhd-thrive-institute/mycompany/ ▶ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ph/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhd_thriveinstitute 📕INTERNATIONAL  BEST SELLING BOOK: ▶ Thriving with ADHD – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book/ 💻FREE MASTERCLASS ▶ Free Reduce ADHD Symptoms Naturally Masterclass - https://bit.ly/3GAbFQl ⭐COURSES & PROGRAMS ▶ ADHD Parenting Course – https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/parentingadhd ▶ ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids Program – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/packages/

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• 187: Is It Normal or Is It ADHD? with Dana Kay

  Is it normal…or is it ADHD? That's the question that keeps so many parents of neurodivergent kids up at night, especially when old behaviors resurface after months or years of progress.  In this episode of The Soaring Child podcast, Dana Kay, board certified holistic health and nutrition practitioner, 2X international bestselling author, and mom of a child with ADHD, opens up about the emotional whiplash that can come with raising a neurodiverse child.  She shares what it's like to second-guess every behavior, even the ones that might just be typical childhood moments. Tune in to discover the difference between developmentally typical behavior and patterns that signal deeper dysregulation. Links Mentioned in the Show ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/breakfastguide ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/tool ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/supplements ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/parenting ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book Key Takeaways with Timestamps [00:16] Why calm can trigger panic for ADHD parents [02:41] The "Is this normal or ADHD?" fear spiral [04:27] What counts as developmentally typical behavior [06:05] When patterns—not moments—signal deeper concerns [06:53] Why one meltdown feels heavier after progress [08:26] A client story: panic when the school didn't call [10:12] Why children (and adults) naturally have off days [11:34] How biology—gut, nutrients, inflammation—affects behavior [12:20] Questions parents can ask when behaviour worries them [14:17] Why hyperactive boyhood isn't pathology [16:42] Tracking patterns over time rather than reacting to one-offs [18:13] Validation that every parent needs to hear   Memorable Moments with Timestamps (Exact Quotes) "If peace somehow feels unsafe, it's not your fault." "I felt my whole body tighten… that hot flush that runs through every bone in your body." "One school phone call… and we spiral." "That fear doesn't mean everything is unraveling. It means that you care." "Progress hits harder when you finally experience peace." "For years, silence meant brace yourself—something bad's coming." "It means they're human children." "We've been conditioned to expect our children to behave better than most adults do." "These aren't signs of ADHD symptoms returning—these are signs of life." "Let them be messy. Let them be human. Let them be in process." Dana Kay Resources: 🔗WEBSITES: ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/ ▶ https://dana-kay.com/ 👋SOCIALS: ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ADHDThriveInstitute/ ▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADHDThriveInstitute ▶ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adhd-thrive-institute/mycompany/ ▶ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ph/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhd_thriveinstitute 📕INTERNATIONAL  BEST SELLING BOOK: ▶ Thriving with ADHD – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book/ 💻FREE MASTERCLASS ▶ Free Reduce ADHD Symptoms Naturally Masterclass - https://bit.ly/3GAbFQl ⭐COURSES & PROGRAMS ▶ ADHD Parenting Course – https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/parentingadhd ▶ ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids Program – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/packages/

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• 186: Repairing Parent-Child Connections with Ashley Gobeil

  What if the words you speak in frustration are slowly eroding the relationship you most want to protect? In this deeply honest episode, Dana Kay welcomes back Ashley Gobeil, our resident child and family therapist, to explore how parents can repair, reconnect, and rebuild trust after conflict. Ashley shares why ADHD behaviors are rooted in nervous-system dysregulation and why healing begins when parents learn to co-regulate and model emotional accountability. Together, they unpack why traditional reward and punishment systems backfire, how to set firm yet compassionate boundaries, and what "connection before correction" looks like in everyday moments. Listeners will hear moving examples of repair conversations, simple regulation tools, and encouraging reminders that it's never too late to change the tone in your home. This episode will leave parents feeling seen, hopeful, and empowered to begin healing their own family patterns—one calm, connected moment at a time. Links Mentioned in the Show ▶ ADHD Thrive Jumpstart for Parenting → https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/parenting ▶ Ashley Gobeil → https://ashleychildtherapies.com.au ▶ Parenting ADHD Teens Calmly with Ashley Gobeil - https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/177-parenting-adhd-teens-calmly-with-ashley-gobiel/id1619834565?i=1000728325539 Key Takeaways: [02:35] Kids with ADHD require a different parenting lens rooted in nervous-system awareness. [05:50] Parents co-regulate their children's nervous systems every day. [09:30] Teens turn to peers when trust and repair are missing. [12:45] "Connection before correction" changes the tone of discipline. [18:30] Controlling and fear-based models collapse as teens seek independence. [19:20] How to apologize and repair without losing authority. [25:10] Don't take "I hate you!" personally — hear the emotion beneath the words. [26:50] Why authenticity is more regulating than forced calm. [32:10] Learn your own triggers to break generational cycles. [39:20] Ashley's final tip: "Drop everything and connect — say 'I love you no matter what.'" Memorable Moments: "If I spoke to my friends the way I speak to my child, I'd have no friends left." "We hold the keys to our child's nervous system." "They're not giving you a hard time, they're having a hard time." "It's never too late to repair." "Connection before correction, that phrase will be your friend." "I'd rather parents choose authenticity over calm." "Go connect and say 'I love you no matter what.'" Connect with Ashley: ▶ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/healing_with_ashley ▶ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/ashley.gobeil.50 ▶ Website – https://ashleychildtherapies.com.au Dana Kay Resources: 🔗WEBSITES: ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/ ▶ https://dana-kay.com/ 👋SOCIALS: ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ADHDThriveInstitute/ ▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADHDThriveInstitute ▶ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adhd-thrive-institute/mycompany/ ▶ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ph/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhd_thriveinstitute 📕INTERNATIONAL  BEST SELLING BOOK: ▶ Thriving with ADHD – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book/ 💻FREE MASTERCLASS ▶ Free Reduce ADHD Symptoms Naturally Masterclass - https://bit.ly/3GAbFQl ⭐COURSES & PROGRAMS ▶ ADHD Parenting Course – https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/parentingadhd ▶ ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids Program – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/packages/

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• 185: Raising Holistic Kids Naturally

  Ultra-processed food isn't just junk. It's engineered to hijack kids' brains, emotions, and habits. But what happens when kids themselves decide to fight back? In this powerful episode of The Soaring Child Podcast, host Dana Kay sits down with four inspiring brothers,  Abdullah, Zain, Emaad, and Qasim Ansari, known as The Holistic Kids. They are leading a wellness revolution for their generation. These young changemakers, ages 10 to 17, have ditched junk food, launched their own health podcast, and co-authored The Teen Health Revolution, a guidebook helping kids reclaim their health, energy, and focus naturally. From gut health and brain function to emotional balance and community leadership, this conversation reveals how small changes in food and mindset can spark massive transformation. Whether you're a parent looking for hope or a teen ready to make a difference, this episode will remind you that true change starts young and it's absolutely possible. LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW ▶ The Holistic Kids Show Podcast▶The Teen Health Revolution Book▶The Holistic Kids Show Website▶ADHD Thrive Institute Connect with The Holistic Kids: ▶ Website: theholistickidsshow.com ▶ Instagram: @holistickidsshow ▶ Facebook: facebook.com/theholistickidsshow ▶ Book: theteenhealthrevolution.com ▶ Apple Podcasts: The Holistic Kids Show ▶ Spotify: The Holistic Kids Show Key Takeaways: [00:00] Ultra-processed food and how it hijacks children's brains [02:11] Meet The Holistic Kids — the brothers leading a food revolution [04:18] The science behind junk food addiction and marketing to kids [06:27] Navigating peer pressure and eating healthy at school [09:17] Why eating color and real food matters for brain and body [12:18] "You are what you eat" — microbiome explained in simple terms [14:13] The gut-brain connection and ADHD [17:16] The smoothie trick: how their mom made healthy food fun [19:54] Inside The Teen Health Revolution book [22:25] Inspiring kids everywhere to take charge of their health Memorable Moments: "Ultra-processed food is like a science experiment — not real food." "Eating real food is weird now, and that's sad." "Food is medicine, food is power." "If you eat junk, you're going to turn out as junk." "What you put in your gut affects your brain — even ADHD." "It starts with breakfast — that's where change begins." "We just want teens to take back control of their bodies and lives." Dana Kay Resources: 🔗WEBSITES: ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/ ▶ https://dana-kay.com/ 👋SOCIALS: ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ADHDThriveInstitute/ ▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADHDThriveInstitute ▶ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adhd-thrive-institute/mycompany/ ▶ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ph/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhd_thriveinstitute 📕INTERNATIONAL  BEST SELLING BOOK: ▶ Thriving with ADHD – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book/ 💻FREE MASTERCLASS ▶ Free Reduce ADHD Symptoms Naturally Masterclass - https://bit.ly/3GAbFQl ⭐COURSES & PROGRAMS ▶ ADHD Parenting Course – https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/parentingadhd ▶ ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids Program – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/packages/  

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• 184: Cain Runyan's Story: A 10-Year-Old's ADHD Transformation

  What if your child could tell you, in their own words, what it feels like to thrive with ADHD? In this inspiring episode of The Soaring Child Podcast, host Dana Kay sits down with 10-year-old Cain Runyan, a graduate of the ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids, to hear his firsthand story of transformation — from daily meltdowns and dysregulation to calm, confidence, and joy. Cain shares what it was like before the program, at the age of 6, how changing his diet and learning about his body helped him feel more in control, and how he navigates social moments when others eat foods he can't. His honesty and wisdom are beyond his years, offering parents an inside look at what it's like for a child to not just follow a plan , but truly own their progress. Whether you're feeling uncertain about natural approaches for your child or just need hope from another child who's lived it, this episode will show you what's possible when kids are empowered to thrive. LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW ▶ ADHD Thrive Institute▶ Free Breakfast Guide▶ Dye-Free for ADHD Course▶ Book a Free Consultation Key Takeaways: [01:07] Meet Cain Runyan and hear what life was like before the ADHD Thrive Method [03:13] The frustration of wanting to have a good day but feeling out of control [04:24] Finding peace with food differences and learning to see them as something positive [06:30] How Cain's mom helped him feel included with healthy alternatives at parties [09:37] How the program changed his mindset and helped him take ownership of his health [10:09] Understanding what was going wrong and how diet made everything click [12:56] Feeling calmer, more focused, and in control of emotions [14:54] Cain's powerful message to other kids: "All of this is worth it." [17:57] Cain's health tip for families — "If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't get it." [20:31] Dana's emotional closing and encouragement for parents ready to start their own journey Memorable Moments: "I just wanted to have a good day, but my body wouldn't let me." "Everything really happens for a reason. Maybe this was meant to be." "There are a bunch of things that taste exactly the same or better." "This program really helped because it figured out what was going wrong." "It feels calmer. It feels easier to block out some things." "All this is worth it. Even if you have to do things you don't want to do, you'll feel better in the end." "If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't get it." "I was nervous at first, but then it felt like going down a spring — it just flowed."  "If you're ready to start helping your own child feel better in their body and brain…" Dana Kay Resources: 🔗WEBSITES: ▶ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/ ▶ https://dana-kay.com/ 👋SOCIALS: ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ADHDThriveInstitute/ ▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADHDThriveInstitute ▶ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adhd-thrive-institute/mycompany/ ▶ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ph/adhdthriveinstitute/ ▶ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adhd_thriveinstitute 📕INTERNATIONAL  BEST SELLING BOOK: ▶ Thriving with ADHD – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/book/ 💻FREE MASTERCLASS ▶ Free Reduce ADHD Symptoms Naturally Masterclass - https://bit.ly/3GAbFQl ⭐COURSES & PROGRAMS ▶ ADHD Parenting Course – https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/parentingadhd ▶ ADHD Thrive Method 4 Kids Program – https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/packages/  

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