In this bonus episode, the BBC’S International Editor Jeremy Bowen and Disinformation and Social Media Correspondent Marianna Spring talk about their respective new podcasts: Frontlines of Journalism and Marianna in Conspiracyland.
They reflect on the obstacles that stand between journalists and the truth and the conspiracy theory movement that seems to have boomed in the UK after Covid. Exploring the similarities and differences of their journalistic specialisms, they discuss techniques to hold interviewees to account – especially when their position is based on disinformation - and the significance of social media in modern journalism.Host: Marianna Spring
Producers: Georgia Catt, Emma Close
Producer for BBC Radio 4 podcasts: Nathan Jones
Senior news editor: Sam Bonham
Commissioner: Rhian Roberts
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10. The Big Lie
When BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen questioned President Bashar al-Assad about the well-documented Syrian practice of dropping barrels full of explosives on areas held by rebels, he was confronted by a repeated lie.The question for journalists is how they deal with that. And what happens when the lie machine is turned on the journalists themselves.Revisiting some of the most difficult stories he and other journalists have had to report, BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen looks at some of the obstacles that stand between journalists and what Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein called the ‘best obtainable version of the truth’.Jeremy speaks with: journalist Rana Rahimpour who was born in Iran but left when she was 25 to work for the BBC, Dean Baquet - until 2022 the executive editor of the New York Times, and Eliot Higgins - founder of Bellingcat.Presenter: Jeremy Bowen
Producer: Georgia Catt
Assistant Producer: Sam Peach
Additional research: Rob Byrne
Series mixing: Jackie Margerum
Series Editor: Philip Sellars
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9. Who’s in control?
The same story can look very different depending on how it’s written and where you get it. Who's in control?Revisiting some of the most difficult stories he’s reported on, BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen looks at some of the obstacles that stand between journalists and what Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein called 'the best obtainable version of the truth'. Jeremy speaks with: broadcaster and former editor of the News of the World, Piers Morgan; Emily Bell - Professor at Columbia University School of Journalism, journalist and environmentalist George Monbiot, former Reuters journalist Sabina Cosic, CNN’s Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour, and Dean Baquet - until 2022 the executive editor of the New York Times.Presenter: Jeremy Bowen
Producer: Georgia Catt
Assistant Producer: Sam Peach
Additional research: Rob Byrne
Series mixing: Jackie Margerum
Series Editor: Philip Sellars
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8. Details
Reporting a story requires detail. But how much is enough? Or too much? Revisiting some of the most difficult stories he and other journalists have had to report, BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen looks at some of the obstacles that stand between journalists and what Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein once called the ‘best obtainable version of the truth’. Jeremy speaks with: Andrew Norfolk - chief investigative reporter for The Times, Aisha K. Gill - Professor of Criminology at University of Bristol’s Centre for Gender and Violence Research, Andrew Mosley - editor of Rotherham Advertiser, Emily Bell - Professor at Columbia University Journalism School and Eliot Higgins - founder of investigative journalism group Bellingcat.Presenter: Jeremy Bowen
Producer: Georgia Catt
Assistant Producer: Sam Peach
Additional research: Rob Byrne
Series mixing: Jackie Margerum
Series Editor: Philip Sellars
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7. Open the door and you’re doomed
Journalists couldn’t get to the truth with people. Some make stories possible. Others do all they can to stop them. Revisiting difficult stories he and other journalists have had to report, BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen looks at some of the obstacles that stand between journalists and what Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein once called the ‘best obtainable version of the truth’. In this episode: how journalists deal with sources, spin and powerful people.Jeremy speaks with: journalist and former BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg, Dean Baquet - until 2022 executive editor of the New York Times, BBC Gaza producer Rushdi Abu Alouf, and broadcaster and former editor of The Mirror and News of The World, Piers Morgan. Presenter: Jeremy Bowen
Producer: Georgia Catt
Assistant Producer: Sam Peach
Additional research: Rob Byrne
Series mixing: Jackie Margerum
Series Editor: Philip Sellars
Reflecting on some of the most difficult stories he's reported on, BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen look at the obstacles that stand between journalists and the truth.
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