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• Chase Rowan: Army Ranger Who Faced Addiction, Found Healing, & Rebuilt His Life

  From Battlefield to Boardroom: The Journey of Chase Rowan This week, Marcus and Melanie meet with the remarkable Chase Rowan—a former Army Ranger turned creative visionary, financial strategist, and vocal advocate for alternative healing. With a career spanning combat zones to creative studios and boardrooms, Chase embodies the spirit of resilience, innovation, and transformation. Listen in on Chase’s powerful story of serving as an Army Ranger and the ridiculous challenges he faced returning to civilian life, healing the Invisible wounds, and his personal experiences with ibogaine and 5meo-DMT, and how these treatments helped him overcome addiction and trauma. Chase discusses his work with the Texas Ibogaine Initiative and reveals why he’s passionate about sharing these solutions with fellow veterans. Chase Rowan worked as a Land Development Project Manager for 17 years, helping build residential neighborhoods all over North Texas. He spent his career working for two of the largest land developers in Texas, managing everything from early planning and design to construction and final delivery of large-scale communities. In This Episode You Will Hear: •  I had a lot of experiences walking in on things no boy wants to walk in on. (12:45) •  I’ve struggled with alcohol for a long time. But I did it kind of quietly, especially when I got in the military. (19:57) • [While parachuting] I hit the runway going 40-50 mph. I had an 8” gash in the back of my head. I was out-unconscious. (30:44) • There’s nothing worse than opioid withdrawal to me. (30:44) • My sole focus when I got up, when I was deep in my addiction – my first thought was “How am I gonna get something?” (38:15) • In 2016, my life was in shambles. I decided I needed help. (39:10) • [Marcus] No matter how strong you are. It’s like being a prisoner of war. (41:47) • I felt like such a failure, and so many times I thought about how much better my kids and my wife would be if I just ended my life. (53:26) • When I was at my weakest, and I’d start crying, all of the sudden I’d feel power within me. (58:49) • Being sober is a super power. (63:15) • [Post Ibogaine treatment] I’ve never wanted to be alive more than I do now, and people need to know about this. (72:21) • There’s nothing I like more than seeing people happy. (78:02) • It’s not what you want. It’s what you need. (84:27) • There are so many things that trauma is from, and this [Ibogaine] can heal it. (90:28) Support Chase  - t4gmh.org Support TNQ   - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13   -  https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors:   -  cargurus.com/TNQ    - armslist.com/TNQ   - partnersinbuilding.com - Navyfederal.org        -    - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com    - WARFARE IN THEATERS APRIL 11th Watch Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JER0Fkyy3tw First Look Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3DWuqiAUKg&t=3s    -   - PXGapparel.com/TNQ   - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ    - Selectquote.com/TNQ    - Groundnews.com/TNQ    - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com    - shipsticks.com/TNQ    - Robinhood.com/gold    - strawberry.me/TNQ    - stopboxusa.com {TNQ}    - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ]   -  kalshi.com/TNQ   -  joinbilt.com/TNQ    - Tonal.com [TNQ]   - greenlight.com/TNQ   - PDSDebt.com/TNQ   - drinkAG1.com/TNQ   - Shadyrays.com [TNQ]   - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ]   - Hims.com/TNQ   - Shopify.com/TNQ   - Aura.com/TNQ   - Policygenius.com   - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ]   - usejoymode.com [TNQ]

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• Chet Ingram & Ryan Johnson: Remembering Navy SEAL Nathan G. Ingram — A Warrior Who Dove Into Darkness to Save a Brother

  A Father’s Mission: Honoring the Legacy of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram  In this deeply moving episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with Chet Ingram, the father of Navy SEAL Nathan Gage Ingram, who was lost at sea in January 2024 during a mission off the coast of Somalia. Alongside fellow SEAL Christopher J. Chambers, Gage perished while attempting to board a vessel suspected of smuggling Iranian weapons bound for the Houthi rebels. The mission turned tragic when Chambers was swept overboard, and Gage, in a heroic act of brotherhood, dove in after him — both were lost to the ocean’s current. Chet, and Gage’s best friend Ryan, reflect on Gage’s remarkable journey from Roanoke, Virginia, to the elite ranks of SEAL Team Three. He shares how his son’s determination and selfless character defined every part of his life, including his final moments. Chet also opens up about the heartbreak of losing a son, the holes left behind, and the hope he’s now pursuing through the Nathan Gage Ingram Foundation — a mission to support military families in their own times of need. We also discuss the Navy’s investigation into the incident, which pointed to preventable failures, and how Chet has chosen to turn pain into purpose, even participating in a memorial paddle just miles from where his son is honored in San Diego. From personal grief to public service, from private tears to lasting legacy — this conversation is a powerful tribute to a son, a hero, and a father's unwavering love. In This Episode You Will Hear: • American Airlines pilots, called “100 Vets Who Give a Damn” are retired pilots. They give me opportunity to speak, and make a little money for the foundation. (3:21) • I’m that dad that when the kids are 4 years old and they’re looking for a soccer coach, I volunteered. (16:47) • I teach biomechanics and fast pitch softball. (16:55) • He [Gage] had a lot of heart, played football - still the smallest guy in the world, but as a cornerback, he’d fight you for that ball. (18:05) • He [Gage] was watching this movie one night. Afterwards, he decided to go for a 4-mile run in the ice. He came back and said “Dad, I’m gonna be a Navy SEAL. (21:50) • Financially all I ever asked God for was to be comfortable. Never more than I deserved. (28:17) • Gage and I did the 100k – (6.23 miles) and we did it in just under 4 hours. (42:40) • Gage loved the kiddos and the puppies. (53:49) • In an attempt to board the Dhow, going up that unstable ladder, and with the proximity of the boat, it jumped the rail. Chris attempted it and didn’t make good contact and fell 9 feet. (59:14) • The biggest reward was that between his graduation and boot camp, I asked him to accept Jesus, and he did. (60:20) • I can’t change the past, but how can I help change the future, based on my experience. (62:27) • As far as we know those boys are still kickin’ water. He’s still sittin’ in a bar drunk, just waiting for people to come. (62:43) • [Marcus] We have to have a bar under the sea. (62:47) •  I tell people, he can walk in that door any minute. You don’t know, man. (66:17) • That’s what happened that day. They knocked on the door, and we’re till living that nightmare. (70:26) • There are guys getting out now that are able to talk to me about certain things. The incredible impression that Gage made on them. (81:28) • I want to represent Gage in the highest way possible. (81:47) • I want the foundation to represent what he would’ve been, what I knew him to be, how he was raised to be, and being validated by stories that are coming back from other people. I think I’m on the right path to basically be a damn good human. (82:11) • I feel like I’m walking uphill backwards. But at least I’m moving forward. (83:16) • There aren’t big problems; it’s how you choose to approach them (87:57) • Think across the horizon. (88:11) • I can’t offer medical therapy, but I ain’t seen anybody with an issue having a problem when their having fun. (90:35) •  Gage’s retreat – Adventure Therapy Program - is what is what it’s titled. (90:51) • People always remember him laughing. He never thought he was better than anybody else. He always treated people with love and respect. 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• Brian Dickinson: Navy Rescue Swimmer Who Summited Mt. Everest Solo—Goes Blind & Survives the Death Zone Alone

  Solo in the Death Zone: Brian Dickinson’s Blind Descent from Everest This week’s Team Never Quit guest is no stranger to adversity. Brian Dickinson, a former U.S. Navy Special Operations Aviation Rescue Swimmer and elite mountaineer, joins us to share the harrowing true story of his solo summit and descent of Mount Everest after being left without a guide—and without sight. After his Sherpa fell ill near the South Col, Brian pushed onward alone to the top of the world, only to be struck by sudden snow blindness on the way down. What followed was a seven-hour descent with no vision, no oxygen, and no margin for error. Brian holds the record for the highest solo blind descent and has completed the Seven Summits, conquering the tallest peaks on each continent. Before his mountaineering feats, Brian served six years in the U.S. Navy with the elite NSO (Naval Special Operations) community, deploying on high-risk rescue and combat missions in the Persian Gulf. Now the host of Calm in the Chaos, a podcast that highlights raw, untold rescue stories from America’s unsung heroes, Brian brings the same courage, insight, and humility to this conversation. Whether you're a fan of extreme adventure, military resilience, or human endurance—you won’t want to miss this one. In This Episode You Will Hear: • {Marcus] I’m a Charlie Sheen SEAL. (8:19) • It’s weird when you go from jumping put of helicopters to something less interesting. (14:11) • You can’t really plan for giving up in the death zone – 26,00 feet. But you can train for the things in your control. (18:07) • You can’t acclimate to 26 [thousand feet]. You’re slowly dying. Like if you cut your finger, it won’t heal. There’s not enough air. (23:23) • At Camp 3, this is where you see a straight up ice wall. If you fall, you’re falling for a mile. (24:32) • When I got about a thousand feet above Camp 3, I had to anchor off to get some water. I had an oxygen mask and goggles, and I took my goggles off to put them around my wrist, and as I was getting my mask off to drink water, my foot slipped, I went to grab the rope, and my goggles slid off and 4they’re just like… down. And you don’t bring extra gear. (25:35) • There’re over 300 bodies still on the mountain. (30:38) • You live and die by the decisions you make in life. (31:34) • When you climb any mountain at night, the sun is your first indication of hope. (37:33) • According to the Himalayan Database, I’m one of two people to ever have the summit to myself on a given day. (39:07) • Everything just went completely white. I went Snowblind. And I remember at that moment, dropping down, grabbing the rope, and assessing the situation thinking: I’m at the highest point in the world, I’m completely blind; no one’s coming to get me. (41:07) • I just witnessed a miracle. It was like someone reached down and picked me up. An unexplained energy. The first thing I did was try the extra oxygen bottle and it started working, and I got 5 full beaths – reeling it in – and it burned. It felt like fire going through my veins. (48:02) • Everyone loves a survival story. They could care less about the survivor. (53:43) • That whole time, Jesus was walking alongside me. I felt that presence. (47:05) Support Brian PERSONAL SITE: Https://briandickinson.net CALM IN THE CHAOS PODCAST: Https://calminthechaospodcast.com BLIND DESCENT: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1414391722 CALM IN THE CHAOS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1493078534 INSTAGRAM: https://instagram.com/BrianCDickinson FACEBOOK: https://facebook.com/BrianCDickinson YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCalmintheChaosPodcast X: https://x.com/BrianCDickinson Support TNQ   - IG: team_neverquit , marcusluttrell , melanieluttrell , huntero13   -  https://www.patreon.com/teamneverquit Sponsors:   - armslist.com/TNQ   - partnersinbuilding.com   - cargurus.com/TNQ - Navyfederal.org        -    - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com    - WARFARE IN THEATERS APRIL 11th Watch Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JER0Fkyy3tw First Look Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3DWuqiAUKg&t=3s    -   - PXGapparel.com/TNQ   - bruntworkwear.com/TNQ    - Selectquote.com/TNQ    - Groundnews.com/TNQ    - You can find Cremo's new line of antiperspirants and deodorants at Target or Target.com    - shipsticks.com/TNQ    - Robinhood.com/gold    - strawberry.me/TNQ    - stopboxusa.com {TNQ}    - ghostbed.com/TNQ [TNQ]   -  kalshi.com/TNQ   -  joinbilt.com/TNQ    - Tonal.com [TNQ]   - greenlight.com/TNQ   - PDSDebt.com/TNQ   - drinkAG1.com/TNQ   - Shadyrays.com [TNQ]   - qualialife.com/TNQ [TNQ]   - Hims.com/TNQ   - Shopify.com/TNQ   - Aura.com/TNQ   - Policygenius.com   - TAKELEAN.com [TNQ]   - usejoymode.com [TNQ]

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• Mark Keller: Stories From A Fighter Pilot- Haunted Missions, 2 Brushes w/ Death & His Road To Recovery

  From Combat to Clarity: The Healing Journey of Mark Keller This week’s Team Never Quit episode features Lieutenant Commander Mark Keller, a retired U.S. Navy Naval Flight Officer who served his country with distinction in combat zones around the world—including Kosovo, Iraq, and post-9/11 Afghanistan. But after two decades of intense operational service, Mark faced a more insidious enemy at home: the devastating mental, emotional, and physical toll of war. In this powerful conversation, Mark opens up about his early years as a thrill-seeker, his journey from the Air Force to earning his commission into the Navy, and the harrowing missions that left scars no one could see. He recounts the mission that haunted him most—the unintended loss of innocent life—and how that moment triggered a years-long battle with PTSD, addiction, broken relationships, and near-death experiences. But Mark’s story doesn’t end in darkness. He takes us inside his transformational healing journey, made possible by plant-based neurogenesis therapies including Ibogaine and 5-MEO-DMT. Supported by the nonprofit Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS) and inspired by fellow veterans like Marcus Luttrell and Marcus Capone, Mark discovered not only deep healing—but a new purpose. Now an advocate for alternative PTSD treatments and featured in the upcoming documentary No Fallen Heroes, Mark shares how love, neuroplasticity, and hard-fought self-discovery helped him reclaim his life.  If you or someone you love is a veteran struggling with PTSD, you’re not alone. Reach out, share this episode, and explore the healing resources shared today. In This Episode You Will Hear: • When you’ve got 2 Lieutenants with 15,000 pounds of gas and an hour to kill in an F-14, what are you gonna do? (18:46) • If there’s any flat earthers listening to this… the earth is round. (19:28) • As I look over on my left, I start seeing bright orange, all over the place. And I switched around on my seat, and the whole back of the plane’s on fire. Holy shit! (25:30) • A lot of guys got in the habit of making sure they had a mag in there. They wanted to be sure to take themselves out, before the Taliban got ‘em. (36:22) • [Marcus: a buddy of mine] came over the wood line and dropped down over our crawfish boil, you could see him come down; rolled over to do a panel check; and hung us the finger. (43:53) • Why are you gonna strap an explosive-laden rocket to your ass, if you can’t do something fun with it? (44:44) • Detailed discussion related to lasers and precision bombing. (48:27 to 55:30) • People have different experiences, and you make decisions based on what you know. (59:21) • I got home to my wife and my 2 young sons, and I wasn’t the same. (75:35) • Every time you launch, you gotta be on the ball. You’re at 100% all the time. You have to. Mission success, and sometimes survival requires it. (77:19) • The life of a fighter air crew in the Navy: Poor quality sleep, not the best nutrition, constant high stress for months at a time, bathing in and drinking water contaminated with jet fuel, the G-forces associated with catapult shots and arrested landings deform your brain rather violently, you’re flying with a 10,000 watt radar down by your feet, when you’re at altitude, there’s nothing between you and God but a piece of plexiglass. Why are guys getting prostate cancer? I don’t know. We can guess about that, can’t we? (78:09) • There were times that I was so screwed up that I knew that next one was gonna kill me and I said I don’t care and I did it anyway. I don’t know why I’m not dead. (95:47) • Ibogaine doesn’t give you what you want, it gives you what you need. (124:45) • Ibogaine is a medicine that works on cellular metabolism and neuro transmitters and happens to have some psychedelic-like effects. (128:45) • I’ve just learned to not be too attached to what other people think. 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• Bradley Geary & JD Donaldson: Talking BUD/s & Team Guy Chaos - A Tribute To Danny Dietz

  From the Mountains to the Mission: Commander J.D. Donaldson & Captain Bradley Geary’s Journey of Service and Sacrifice This week, Marcus and Melanie welcome Commander Jed “J.D.” Donaldson, and Captain Bradley Geary to the Team Never Quit Podcast. J.D Donaldson, a West Virginia native whose journey from small-town athlete to elite Navy SEAL leader is nothing short of remarkable. Raised in Hedgesville and shaped by strong family values and athletic discipline, J.D. earned a U.S. Naval Academy appointment and went on to win two national boxing championships before graduating with a degree in Physics (Oceanography). Selected for SEAL training alongside a small group of peers, J.D. would go on to serve in multiple SEAL Teams across global deployments, holding command positions at SEAL Team Eight and SEAL Team Four, and leading strategic operations in Africa with Special Operations Command. His time at the elite Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU) marks the pinnacle of a career defined by leadership, courage, and brotherhood. Now, as Training and Facilities Manager at GBRS Group, J.D. continues to serve the veteran and first responder community, equipping them with the tools and training to thrive. In this episode, we explore how his experiences shaped his approach to leadership, resilience, family, and life after service. Captain Bradley Geary is a retired Navy SEAL officer with 24 years of distinguished service in Naval Special Warfare. A 2000 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and SEAL Qualification Training Class 234, he led elite teams across the globe—from SEAL Team Four to commanding SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team One. He most recently served as Commanding Officer of Naval Special Warfare Basic Training Command. Captain Geary holds a master’s in Defense Analysis and has spent his career training, leading, and mentoring some of the most elite warriors in the world. In This Episode You Will Hear: • I was first chair trumpet in high school. Muscular lips. (22:38) • One of the psych’s did a study of all the attributes access the teams to find out what’s consistent across all the force. The only attribute he could find consistent with 100% of us the sense of levity – humor. (32:12) • In the darkest moments of our careers, you’ll find the funniest things (33:20) • There’s this one young officer standing there, smiling ear to ear. I said “Yo dude, I just cancelled your Christmas break, they got you wet and sandy. Why are you smiling? [His response was] “This is everything I was waiting for, and everything I hoped it would be.” (35:59) • Press into the suffering. All of a sudden, it’s not enjoyable, but it changes your mindset. (36:47) • [Marcus] McGraw had more fractures than he had legs. No quit in this dude. (47:18) • The guy next to me, Greg Klein, a huge Green Beret and Marine Force Recon. The instructor says “Klein, what’re you doing here? You’re Army Green Beret; you’re Marine Force Recon. He’s like “I thought I’d take a break.” (48:07) • Danny [Dietz] was probably the best pilot I’ve ever seen. He was amazing. (68:31) • We were in Chesapeake Bay, and I’m looking at the bearings. All of a sudden, I’m like “Hey! Danny!  We’re like 90 degrees off course. What are you doing? Next thing I know, we bounce off the bottom. He had fallen asleep driving the STD. We had been out there so long that night. (68:52) • It comes back to Who’s under the boat? Who’s carrying their weight? Who’s sacrificing for their teammates? And Danny [Dietz] was always that guy. (79:32) • [Danny Dietz is the] most selfless dude I’ve ever met. (79:58) • Whatever he [Danny Dietz] did, he did with excellence. He just owned it. (80:25) • It was the first time that I’d lost anybody close, and I walked out to the gravel, looked up to the heavens and I got to thinking. He was probably one of the key elements of my success in my entire career. I looked up to the stars and thought: “Alright Lord, If I was up there and Mike was down here, what would I say to him?” I’d say: “Think well of me and get back to work.” 120:54) • I hadn’t brushed my teeth in like 84 hours. (121:53) • Leonidus didn’t choose the 300 [Spartans] because they were the best warriors. He chose them because they had the best women. (139:21) • Suffering produces endurance, endurance produces character, character produces hope. All the answers are right in this book. 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